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Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - PaulP - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 12:18 AM)capcom link Wrote:Nothing short of pathetic IMO. He MUST get on the front foot from the get go. He will incur my wrath really quickly if he doesn't. That's his freakin' job, practice match or not !!!
Lions, Cats, Bombers, Swans and Giants have all sent out assistants for the post match interviews so far. It's not unheard of. Although the senior coaches of those clubs have been around for a while. Teague is the only one of the noobs to not front up. Whether there's some genuine reason behind it is hard to gauge.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - Baggers - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 01:29 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Lions, Cats, Bombers, Swans and Giants have all sent out assistants for the post match interviews so far. It's not unheard of. Although the senior coaches of those clubs have been around for a while. Teague is the only one of the noobs to not front up. Whether there's some genuine reason behind it is hard to gauge.
I don't think there's anything sinister in who fronts the media after practice matches, gives the assistants some media training... plus Dale A is a pretty good media performer.
Must confess I am far more concerned with what we dished up last night than whose turn it is to talk about it.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 01:53 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I don't think there's anything sinister in who fronts the media after practice matches, gives the assistants some media training... plus Dale A is a pretty good media performer.
Must confess I am far more concerned with what we dished up last night than whose turn it is to talk about it.
Agree...Amos speaks well and I reckon Teague has a few more things to worry about than giving a presser.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - PaulP - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 01:53 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I don't think there's anything sinister in who fronts the media after practice matches, gives the assistants some media training... plus Dale A is a pretty good media performer.
Must confess I am far more concerned with what we dished up last night than whose turn it is to talk about it.
I agree, but some folks on here seem quite upset. Truth to tell I prefer Amos to Dinkum Dave.
I don't think we should be freaking out just yet. Half a dozen or so games into the season will give us a better idea. We don't have a true KPF for starters. McKay should be back soon. Charlie, McGovern, Levi, etc. are more 2nd 3rd forwards. The crumbers will function better with a true KPF.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - WASurfer - 03-09-2020
Late to the discussion so apologies if I rehash other comments.
We brushed off last week's effort saying it was just a practice match! This was the real deal before it all starts. Apart from SPS, that's pretty much the team we'll be choosing from and after kicking the first 4 goals, we lost by 8!
Only made to look good early because Brisbane forgot to turn up...once they did, they made us look silly.
Like last week, only a few highlights for mine. Martin looks like he'll be really good for us but concerning at half time that he looked completely stuffed...maybe that's a knock on him? Walsh is just a competitive beast who does not stop and looks to have just picked up where he left off last year. TDK looks like he's worth taking a punt on early in the season. Silvagni should be in the first picked each week. Yes, his kicking for goal lets him down but he just busts a gut the whole time...running up and down, making a contest in the air and on the ground, chasing/tackling.
Too many downsides again though:
- Marchbank looks unfortunately like one of those blokes who just can't stay on the ground because of injuries. But to be honest, doesn't contribute much out there anyway.
- McGovern needs nothing short of a rocket. Does he not realise we'll be without Curnow for most of the season and McKay for a good part of it too? He looks lazy and no second efforts at all. At this rate Levi will need to play permanent forward and maybe TDK as second ruck/forward option depending on conditions for round 1.
- too many players with absolutely sh#t disposal skills. These blokes play/train virtually 5 days a week but still can't hit a team mate on his own from 30m away. How many turnovers yesterday? Blokes like Setterfield, Polson, Plowman, Marchbank just can't kick. Dow looked pretty good in parts with his run and carry but just blasts it into no mans land when he kicks it...and more often than not, straight to an opponent.
- did we win any free kicks for holding the ball tackles? Seemed like whenever we got tackled it was holding the ball but when we laid a tackle, it was a ball up.
If that's basically the lineup against Richmond we're gonna get our pants pulled down and make the calls louder for us to be taken away from the season opener each year.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - Gointocarlton - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 02:13 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:If that's basically the lineup against Richmond we're gonna get our pants pulled down and make the calls louder for us to be taken away from the season opener each year.Great post WAS, this is the big ticket item for mine. After a summer of being fed positive BS from all and sundry at the club, they dish up two dismal performances, one 10 days out from rnd 1 vs the premiers with virtually a full side. If we dish up a sh!tshow rnd 1, you can kiss the season opener goodbye. I was relatively optimistic but in 24hrs, my mind has been turned 180 degrees.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - Lods - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 12:46 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:But Lods, there was not even a glimpse (to me) that we can fight when the 4 points are up for grabs. Read my post carefully, we are making the same mistakes over and over and over. Not being able to compete for 4 qtrs is a real worry. For example, Setterfield had a bread and butter shot from from around 30m out directly in front at the Royal Parade end. He sprayed it badly. This is an end where they train this week in week out and have shot after shot. You tell me there is no intensity or pressure in these games and yet he simply misses. Just plain UNACCEPTABLE. Excuses keep getting made year after year, I am effin sick of it. I say again, Its not the loss per se', its the way we lost, same as every other loss for the last 5 years. If we were trying something totally different and we lost, I would get it. But it was a full dress rehearsel for round 1, David Teagues words pre,match on FOX not mine. Well if thats the dress rehearsal, we're forked.
It might very well be that what we're seeing is an indication of how our season will pan out.
I sincerely hope not.
But the way I look at it is this....It's a long season. Players know that in the next few weeks they're going to have to switch up to another level. Experienced players like Kreuzer, Simpson and Murphy have been around long enough to know that they need to pace themselves at this time of year so they can see the season through. Even Cripps seemed to dial it down a gear as the game went on. It doesn't require a massive drop in effort but this is nowhere near the level of attack on player and ball we'll see in round 1.
These matches are really just a run, a bit like a racehorse racing at different distances before settling into the main focus of a campaign. While it's nice to say they should be a '100% all the time' in these games or 'you play as you train' it's now a bit cliché. Training loads and intensity are much more sophisticated than they were back in the days. We have no idea of the training loads in the days leading up to these games but I suspect there will now be a bit of a freshening up as we head towards the Richmond game. Skill errors by players are likely to hurt their chances of selection, so those who don't execute will be lucky to play unless they bring other attributes.
We'll find out in a few days if what we've seen is what we'll get.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - Tragic - 03-09-2020
(03-09-2020, 02:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I don't think we should be freaking out just yet. Half a dozen or so games into the season will give us a better idea. We don't have a true KPF for starters. McKay should be back soon. Charlie, McGovern, Levi, etc. are more 2nd 3rd forwards. The crumbers will function better with a true KPF.
I agree. Sadly, we won't get to see our best setup for sometime, it's another bad run with injuries to key personnel.
Harry as FF, pushing up about as far as the centre. He's got serious wheels and can lead to the player with the ball and take a strong grab, and also burn off his opponent if one goes over the back.
Charlie roaming wherever the hell he wants. He can present from kick ins, mark on the wing, or do his stuff in the forward 50.
Mitch is best suited to exploiting the gaps in between.
Maybe by the time our developing mids can average 20+ good possies in the middle, we'll have our best forward line on the park... We're all sick of waiting though.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - Professer E - 03-09-2020
McGovern is rapidly turning into a joke, unfortunately I'm not seeing any humour in it.
The decision to cough up a high draft pick and a big chunk of the salary cap for a bloke who doesn't look fair dinkum is looking increasingly like a misguided one.
Another example of acquiring what's available not the best.
Re: Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match - WASurfer - 03-09-2020
Agree to some extent Lods but given the so called "depth" we now have, I would've thought competition would've been fierce for spots with blokes trying to get a gig for Round 1. On these last two performances, there'll be players getting a game who simply don't deserve it on form.
And any information on blokes like SPS, Stocker etc? For mine, Stocker is a far better option down back or as a defensive player than Polson who is simply treading water. I was hoping that with Docherty returning to half back that we could see SPS play more through the middle but we might need his kicking skills coming out of the backline again this season based on what we've seen so far.
Are we simply gonna see us going back to the well with the likes of Kennedy, Lang, O'Brien etc who haven't done enough to warrant a game?