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Re: Winning isn't everything - Mantis - 05-16-2019

I probably wouldn’t call us a car wreck yet. Season isn’t over yet. We won’t see what progress we have made before then. I am not completely thrilled by our current win loss ratio. However I see real potential if we sort a few things out.


Re: Winning isn't everything - flyboy77 - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 03:32 AM)Mantis link Wrote:I probably wouldn’t call us a car wreck yet. Season isn’t over yet. We won’t see what progress we have made before then. I am not completely thrilled by our current win loss ratio. However I see real potential if we sort a few things out.

like winning?


Re: Winning isn't everything - deags - 05-16-2019

(05-15-2019, 11:31 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:My little fella - Grade 1 this year - had a major melt down before class started on Tuesday. Which is not like him at all.

When quizzed by his mother why he wasn't taking his water bottle into his classroom like all the others, he melted down and said he didn't want his class mates to know he went for Carlton!  :-[ :-[

(his water bottle is a charlie's crew bottle with his name on it!)

That's why I want wins on the board more than anything!!!!

My boy is the same age.
We are in NSW so he is mostly shielded from the poor performances.
He just started Auskick this year, and I am taking him to his first game this weekend vs GWS. Hoping for at least a good showing by our lads for his sake, but I am not confident of being anywhere near them.



Re: Winning isn't everything - flyboy77 - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 04:23 AM)deags link Wrote:My boy is the same age.
We are in NSW so he is mostly shielded from the poor performances.
He just started Auskick this year, and I am taking him to his first game this weekend vs GWS. Hoping for at least a good showing by our lads for his sake, but I am not confident of being anywhere near them.

Hopefully he'll witness a win! Go Blues.


Re: Winning isn't everything - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 01:28 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:If you want to see a coaching car wreck, mark neeld record is the one.

5 wins in 33 matches, 3 of which came against gws in their first two seasons and 1 against gold coast.  1 win against hirds bombers after their 2012 wheels fell off with plenty of big losses.

Not sure that helps Bolton to be honest....Neeld sacked at a 15% winning percentage from 33 games and Bolton going at 10% from his last 40 games, mathematically he is cooked IMO if you want
to discuss his future. If he survives it will be for the perceived goodwill for the future that gives him added value.


Re: Winning isn't everything - Baggers - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 03:03 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:You realise we have won 4 games in 40 games?

On our list we have 4 pick 1's
A pick 2
2 x pick 3's
A pick 4
A pick 5
2 x pick 6's
2 x pick 10's
2 x pick 12's
2 x pick 13's
1 x pick 16

I don't think there is a bigger car wreck than us atm

And them the facts. Stark reality. (And you could throw Cuningham and Stocker into that as another two 1st round picks).



Re: Winning isn't everything - kruddler - 05-16-2019

(05-15-2019, 04:58 AM)Lods link Wrote:Yep the close losses are a fantasy.
They're not real wins, they're wins that didn't happen
They're excuses, valid ones in some cases.
They give us a bit of hope.
But what they give us hope for is that we can give a good effort on the day.
They wont show up in record books and probably wont be remembered by us in ten years time when we think back on this period.

I remember Blight kicking a goal from the opposite goal square, I remember Kernahan hitting the behind post for  a draw, Fevola missed one for a few metres out one year....I don't remember the reasons for too many more close losses.

Bolton gets credit for the way we've played in most games this year.
But the difference between a close loss and a close win is as wide as the Grand Canyon.

Disagree lods.

If it was a once off, like say under Pagan, then yes, Grand Canyon. But thats because we'd have to play at our best, and the opposition at their worst, to eek out a victory back then.

Nowadays, we're in games up to our eyeballs, and not exactly playing brilliant footy.

We don't have to kick 11 goals straight, and the opposition 7.23 to get a victory.
We have been on the verge of winning games this year despite...
1. Not turning up for a half
2. Not getting a free kick in a half
3. Not being able to kick it through the big sticks.
etc

We are consistently in games. The difference between a win and a loss is as small as crossing the road, not the grand canyon.


Re: Winning isn't everything - cookie2 - 05-16-2019

Close losses are to look back on with regret not to build your future on. Just my opinion.


Re: Winning isn't everything - laj - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 08:52 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Disagree lods.

If it was a once off, like say under Pagan, then yes, Grand Canyon. But thats because we'd have to play at our best, and the opposition at their worst, to eek out a victory back then.

Nowadays, we're in games up to our eyeballs, and not exactly playing brilliant footy.

We don't have to kick 11 goals straight, and the opposition 7.23 to get a victory.
We have been on the verge of winning games this year despite...
1. Not turning up for a half
2. Not getting a free kick in a half
3. Not being able to kick it through the big sticks.
etc

We are consistently in games. The difference between a win and a loss is as small as crossing the road, not the grand canyon.

We were in 2017 too. 6 wins and 7 losses were we led during the last qtr, many against very good sides. Gone back since then. We need to get past that and win. 4th year in losing to the GC, Sydney here in Melbourne and North were not an option. Rather than worrying about those things we just have to start winning. After this week we get a big run of winnable games. Obviously won't be winning, all but we must win quite a few of them.


Re: Winning isn't everything - Lods - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 08:52 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Disagree lods.

If it was a once off, like say under Pagan, then yes, Grand Canyon. But thats because we'd have to play at our best, and the opposition at their worst, to eek out a victory back then.

Nowadays, we're in games up to our eyeballs, and not exactly playing brilliant footy.

We don't have to kick 11 goals straight, and the opposition 7.23 to get a victory.
We have been on the verge of winning games this year despite...
1. Not turning up for a half
2. Not getting a free kick in a half
3. Not being able to kick it through the big sticks.
etc

We are consistently in games. The difference between a win and a loss is as small as crossing the road, not the grand canyon.

Nah
Kruds
Once they're gone they're soon forgotten.
In 2006 (under Pagan) we lost 7 games by less than 20 points....and finished last
We could probably point to similar moments (excuses) in many of those games.