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Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 06:52 AM)spf link Wrote:And this from the Hun:
Patrick Dangerfield had one piece of advice regarding the new 6-6-6 rule at this year’s AFL Players’ Association season launch.
“Put money on ‘Crippa’ for the Brownlow,” Dangerfield said.
It might’ve been a hot tip. After Round 3 Cripps might well have polled in three losing teams with Saturday’s performance in a 19-point loss to Sydney his finest.
Rarely has a football team been built so exclusively around one player. Cripps isn’t just the heartbeat at Carlton, he’s the entire aorta and the lungs as well.
The problem for Cripps is that’s where the superstar talent ends. He was helpless to stop Sydney squashing a wasteful Carlton at Marvel Stadium.
Cripps won eight of his 13 clearances bursting out of the centre. The next best was third-gamer Sam Walsh with three centre clearances.
Cripps laid eight tackles, three more than every other teammate. Boy, how he must yearn for some midfield mates.
Yeah, Cripps and daylight really. Walsh is showing a bit, but we still lack that support. Setterfield it should be remembered is playing his 4th game.
We need to get some decent midfielders to help out Cripps, like Sydney has.
Walsh - 28 possessions and 8 clearances (subpar as a support for Cripps?)
Alternatively..
Kennedy - 31 possessions and 7 clearances
Jones - 31 possessions and 7 clearances
Parker - 18 touches and 5 clearances
Simple fact is, when 1 player is so dominant (Cripps) it doesn't matter who else is on the ground, they can't put up similar numbers. Josh Kennedy is up there with the best mids in the game over a long period. an 18yo kid just equalled his numbers and yet we are a 1-man side in need of more midfield help.
Perspective. Get some.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - crashlander - 04-06-2019
I hate it that we lost. It really irritates me. But we are getting better. It is going to take time, and that frustrates me the most. I am tired of losing to these zeroes!
[1] Our midfield is very much on the improve, but we were out-muscled in that department today. Cripps was tagged and still got close to 30 possessions. The rest were good in patches, but not enough for long enough. Lobbe competed very well, but he is not a premiership ruckman and it showed. As it is, he deserves another game on that effort.
[2] Our small forwards are very much a work in progress. Neither Polson or Gibbons could make an impression today. I do not think either are lost causes, but one or both should be in the VFL next week. Assuming we have someone to replace them.
Ed Curnow showed a lot with his 4 goals, as a defensive forward. Can he repeat it? That I doubt, but I loved the way he went at it today.
Murphy spent some time up forward and got a goal, a good one.
[3] Our tall forwards are also a work in progress, especially with Charlie Curnow not out there. Levi was good today, both on the ground and in the air. The Gov was better until he was hurt. His goal was a beauty. H marked the ball well but got nothing from the umpires. But all of them expect the bomb into the forward like too much. We need to drop our eyes and find a leading option. Sydney did it and managed goals from it.
[4] We were hurt again by the umpiring today. The push out by Franklin had to be paid and wasn't. H was taken out any number of times and couldn't manage a free. I could go on. If we are good enough this isn't going to matter. However, we are not good enough yet, so every one is a dagger in the heart.
[5] Jones had to be close to BOG. he destroyed Franklin and appeared to get better as the game went on. It was a really big effort. Jacob wasn't far behind: he had a good day.
[6] Our smaller defenders, on the other hand, were patchier. Simmo has not yet got close to his normal form. Perhaps he is human afterall. Newman was good, while Plowman and Marchbank were good in patches. However, Heeney still managed to get 4 goals.
[7] Our disposal is improving, but we still miss the target too often. Sydney showed us how to do it, with classy disposal and goal kicking that rarely missed. We did not make the best use of our scoring shots, especially as we had more of them. Paddy Dow's mistakes today hurt, as did the 3 posters.
[8] Lochie O'Brien also did not stand out. He has not managed to come on as we had hoped.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 09:46 AM)crashlander link Wrote:[4] We were hurt again by the umpiring today. The push out by Franklin had to be paid and wasn't. H was taken out any number of times and couldn't manage a free. I could go on. If we are good enough this isn't going to matter. However, we are not good enough yet, so every one is a dagger in the heart.
I was at the game today and that Franklin push was obvious to me 150m away. How the umps missed it when there are 2 within 20m is simply laughable.
The other one was when we tackled buddy on the boundary line and it was paid as play on, instead of dropping the ball.
Both were obvious, yet both went in buddys favour.
THEN there was the 50-50s that buddy got. I think there was one for front on contact. Not disimillar to about 7 that was not paid against McKay.
The umps didn't cost us the game, but they certainly cost us momentum on multiple occassions.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 07:41 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-04-06/r3-bolton-postmatch
After 3 years of properly fobbing us off, he is starting to talk like all other AFL coaches. Names players, answers questions directly, talks about tactics etc.
The switch has happened folks. No green shoots, or bean sprouts or anything else.
I like it.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - townsendcalling - 04-06-2019
“Our midfield is very much on the improve, but we were out-muscled in that department today. Cripps was tagged and still got close to 30 possessions. The rest were good in patches, but not enough for long enough.“
Compare age, experience and the physical attributes of SPS, Dow, Fisher, Sedderfield, Cripps, Walsh to Parker, Kennedy, Jones, Papley Heeney
Cripps is a star, SPS is improving at a rapid rate, Dow is showing plenty for a 22 game player, ditto Sedderfield for 5 games, Walsh will be the fastest player in history to hit the ‘elite’ category....and he’s only played 3 games, Fisher (75 kg and 34 games) continue to work hard and give 110%.
Parker 85kg. 172 games
Kennedy 95. 226
Jones. 81. 72
Papley 75 64
Heeney 80. 80
I know the grasshoppers are less than patient, but the midfield is evolving as a unit and will continue to do so.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - laj - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 09:22 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:I went to the game today and saw the Swans do what they do year in and year out - use precision kicking and accurate handball under pressure, whether on the back line or forward line, to win the game.
On the other hand I saw Carlton, despite having so many first round picks, butcher the ball by hand and foot as they have on so many occasions this century. Despite the number of coaches and skill coaches the priority for Carlton players with the ball seems to be:
a) Where possible, whether in defence or attack, kick to an opposition player who is by himself
b) Kick the ball short in front of the oncoming Carlton player so that the opposition player can sweep up the ball or create a stoppage
c) Use the chaos theory - just slam the ball on to your boot so the opposition won't know where it is going, and neither will the Carlton players
d) always handball to a teammate who is under maximum pressure.
Seriously, I'm over it. As I said once before, I've followed Carlton for 74 years and always thought the dark years of the club 1948 to 1967 would never be repeated, but I see no relief in sight in this century.
As others have said: is the club in a collective mental state where winning games is unachievable?
You're old!...lol.
I feel better now...haha.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - shawny - 04-06-2019
I sound like a broken record but does anyone really think we will win any game when we try and carry bloke like Gibbons, Polson, and O’Brien who hardly touch it then when they do they have no clue.
Opposition teams must giggle when they see those names on the team sheet on a Thursday night before they play us.
We don’t have the quality to cover blokes who are lucky to touch the footy 5 times a match.
They might be AFL ready one day but are miles off at the moment. And that’s an understatement. If Bolton keeps persisting with them cause they ‘try’ hard or they try and lock the ball in we are doomed. And I’m not on my own supporters were laughing at them today because of how far off these blokes are.
Until these players are replaced by afl standard footballers all we can hope for is more honourable loses, at best.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Barbs - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 09:52 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I was at the game today and that Franklin push was obvious to me 150m away. How the umps missed it when there are 2 within 20m is simply laughable.The umpires call for the tackle on franklin was that the ball went over the line before it was or wasn’t holding the ball. Still should have been holding the ball in my opinion.
The other one was when we tackled buddy on the boundary line and it was paid as play on, instead of dropping the ball.
Both were obvious, yet both went in buddys favour.
THEN there was the 50-50s that buddy got. I think there was one for front on contact. Not disimillar to about 7 that was not paid against McKay.
The umps didn't cost us the game, but they certainly cost us momentum on multiple occassions.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 10:39 AM)Barbs link Wrote:The umpires call for the tackle on franklin was that the ball went over the line before it was or wasn’t holding the ball. Still should have been holding the ball in my opinion.
On the replay i saw, the ball never went over the line....certainly not the entire ball which is required to blow the whistle.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Barbs - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 10:56 AM)kruddler link Wrote:On the replay i saw, the ball never went over the line....certainly not the entire ball which is required to blow the whistle.No it didn’t.
Yet it was thrown in instead of being our kick.
Wasn’t the best day for umpiring for all the aforementioned reasons, plus all the holding on Cripps that got overlooked. Umpires seem to think that since he’s strong enough to keep moving it isn’t holding.