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Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - Jack Burton - 03-26-2019
I cannot believe that some are calling for Ed Curnow to be dropped, but giving Fasolo another game. I know stats aren't everything, but seriously: Curnow 25 disposals, 12 marks, 3 tackles, 113 ranking points (2nd behind Newman); Fasolo 5 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 28 ranking points. In terms of form, they are not in the same ballpark, probably not even in the same State
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - DJC - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 09:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:re Gawn,
Everyone is raving about these tactics and how they won the game off them. Maybe.
However, Eddie and co told us this morning that Gawn actually spent some time in hospital last week having a boil removed(? or whatever they do to them) and had to be put under a general anesthetic for it. So yes, he looked sluggish and took a lot of crap without firing back a whole lot, but thats because he probably shouldn't have been playing due to his far from ideal lead up.
Somehow I’d believe Gawn’s version of events before Eddie’s interpretation.
Virtually every Port player had a crack at him, even the first gamers, and Gawn and his teammates didn’t fire back. It reminded me a bit of how our players used to turn a blind eye when Murph was targeted.
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - PaulP - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 10:29 AM)DJC link Wrote:..............Virtually every Port player had a crack at him, even the first gamers, and Gawn and his teammates didn’t fire back............
Gutless, low brow behaviour that also makes the game ugly as sin. Should be banned.
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - Professer E - 03-26-2019
X2.
Tough is going the ball, not that crap. A big thank you to the umpires for not stamping it out. Pay a free, or frees, and DEAL WITH IT, don't pretend it isn't happening.
(the following is not directed at you Paul). Makes me laugh how many hypocrites there are in our society and the AFL, the loudest opponents to certain behaviours and actions haven't always been the paradigms of virtue they cultivate today.
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - flyboy77 - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 10:18 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:I cannot believe that some are calling for Ed Curnow to be dropped, but giving Fasolo another game. I know stats aren't everything, but seriously: Curnow 25 disposals, 12 marks, 3 tackles, 113 ranking points (2nd behind Newman); Fasolo 5 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 28 ranking points. In terms of form, they are not in the same ballpark, probably not even in the same State
Few left on our list butcher the ball like Ed.
It appears the powers that be think Ed is surplus to midfield requirements - hence why they're playing him as a defensive forward (to find a spot for him).
Bad idea on both fronts - Ed is still our only decent tagger and (seemingly) pretty ordinary as a forward. Matty wright he is not.
So, either he's plays his traditional role or out of the team he goes?
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - PaulP - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 08:49 PM)Professer E link Wrote:X2.
Tough is going the ball, not that crap. A big thank you to the umpires for not stamping it out. Pay a free, or frees, and DEAL WITH IT, don't pretend it isn't happening.
(the following is not directed at you Paul). Makes me laugh how many hypocrites there are in our society and the AFL, the loudest opponents to certain behaviours and actions haven't always been the paradigms of virtue they cultivate today.
No worries. This is a quote from Robert Walls on Sticks :
It was his former premiership coach Robert Walls who perhaps best defined the latter. ''There were times when I told him: 'Why don't you drop back a few steps and let the bloke who's sitting on you get in front of you and you give him one?''' Walls said. ''But he would never do that because he was too honest. His work ethic was 'Hey, I'm not going to do anything but just attack the footy'. He was uncomplicated.''
That's the way footy should be played.
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - LP - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 09:05 AM)DJC link Wrote:The other question is how will Phillips and McKay deal with Ryder and Lycett? Should we play Lobbe (assuming Kreuzer isn’t ready)?
Umpires will be all over Port this week, a smart coaching panel would take advantage of that!
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - DJC - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 09:24 PM)LP link Wrote:Umpires will be all over Port this week, a smart coaching panel would take advantage of that!
I suspect that will be the case, but we should have a Plan B in the event that they turn a blind eye again.
I hope our coaching panel is thinking about how to counter two genuine and effective rucks. Perhaps concentrate on sharking opposition hitouts?
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - Thryleon - 03-26-2019
(03-26-2019, 08:58 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I don't think we got Fas for his forward pressure but rather his ability to get on the end of forward play and hit the scoreboard; a good finisher.I think JSOS does this as well as Fasolo, but brings an actual ability to play another role, is similarly paced, and cracks in harder (at this stage) to contests. His biggest issue is that he goes to ground too easily, and I think he has worked on that during the off season.
Quote:I reckon we'll see Garlett up forward once Willilamson or Marchbank return.
Really liked Gibbo's attack on the aggott and there were some impressive 1%ers as EB1 pointed out. He, like Fas, should get better with more games.
Polson is a chance to get a call-up this week as Port showed how quick they are, maybe comes in for Ed.
Gibbo vs Polson is another 50-50 in which I think Polson probably should get the priority. Gibbo is fine as a VFL - AFL convert, and his next step is to continue finding the pace and a role at AFL level which seems to be the only criteria to which he should get a game ahead of Polson. BUT Polson appeared to be finding his feet at AFL level towards the end of last season, showed some decent signs in the JLT re stopping a bloke like Saad, and also doing a job against the Pies.
We have possibly broken his confidence a little bit, in an effort to integrate a new bloke, and for me this is the first real sign that perhaps Bolton has started coaching the team for the wrong reasons (i.e. winning today, at the expense of tomorrow).
This is a warning sign for me. He is starting to switch to self preservation mode. I don't like it, and Id much rather we find out about Polson and JSOS this season and their ability to make an impact at AFL level, rather than gamble on a bloke like Fasolo (who mucked up and has a point to prove) and Gibbons (who has a bit more time up his sleeves).
Re: Round 2 - Port v Blues (Sat, March 30, 5.10pm) - cookie2 - 03-26-2019
You can't blame BB for wanting to get a few wins to increase his chance of survival. The system is what it is and coaches who don't produce a winning team within the tolerance limit don't last.