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Re: GM to dump Holden - LP - 02-17-2020

(02-17-2020, 03:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Had my say on Jeep/Dodge/Fiat etc....just a laughable company group......RAM's? a post ww2 trabi would be more reliable and have less bits falling of it due to failed welds etc.
About 10-12 decent car brands in Aus, the rest are rubbish...
btw., Anyone buying 2nd hand at the moment be very careful, especially in the Southern states. They are flooding the market with what seems to be greats deals, but they are write-offs from Qld/NT floods a year or two back. They look great after dipping and painting, but inside the skin and sub-frame they'll be rusting faster than cheese can grow mold. You won't have to take a colander when you go camping in a year or so, you can just strain the veges through the tray! If you have a side impact collision they'll be able to pile the pieces into a small box and courier them home for you!

Get on the Gov website and check out the VIN history before handing over a single cent, if it states "Write-off - Water" run away, run far away!


Re: GM to dump Holden - madbluboy - 05-08-2020

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/motoring/motoring-news/jeep-wrangler-rolls-twice-during-safety-tests/news-story/8578e226261bbbfe679871941e459b7a




Re: GM to dump Holden - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-08-2020

(05-08-2020, 07:49 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:https://www.heraldsun.com.au/motoring/motoring-news/jeep-wrangler-rolls-twice-during-safety-tests/news-story/8578e226261bbbfe679871941e459b7a

Glad its the test car rolling with dummies in it and not real people, those deathtraps shouldnt be allowed on the road in Australia and Jeep need to get their act together.
More Jeep comedy gold...
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/jeep-aims-for-50000-aussie-sales-122040/
Jeep sold around 5520 units in Aus in 2019......?


Re: GM to dump Holden - cookie2 - 05-08-2020

(05-08-2020, 08:40 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Glad its the test car rolling with dummies in it and not real people, those deathtraps shouldnt be allowed on the road in Australia and Jeep need to get their act together.
More Jeep comedy gold...
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/jeep-aims-for-50000-aussie-sales-122040/
Jeep sold around 5520 units in Aus in 2019......?

Never been a Jeep fan but they do seem quite capable off road as I witnessed on a trip to the Simpson Desert a few years ago. However on a later trip to the Canning Stock Route the sobering sight of a burnt out Wrangler sticks in my mind, a victim of the notorious Spinifex, which is highly flammable.


Re: GM to dump Holden - capcom - 05-08-2020

Downright dangerous ... very unstable


Re: GM to dump Holden - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-09-2020

(05-08-2020, 09:21 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Never been a Jeep fan but they do seem quite capable off road as I witnessed on a trip to the Simpson Desert a few years ago. However on a later trip to the Canning Stock Route the sobering sight of a burnt out Wrangler sticks in my mind, a victim of the notorious Spinifex, which is highly flammable.

Early Jeeps were tough and great off road , which has been half of their appeal IMO but the quality started slipping and once they became a multi merged entity they have become dangerous and their service appalling.
I get it that long time Jeep owners love the brand but I think that was based on the old Jeeps especially the Grand Cherokees but the new variety are poorly designed and if I was going anywhere off road it would be in a Toyota Landcruiser only.
The SUV craze was probably spawned from the old Jeeps operating as dual function vehicles but IMO its now a brand especially in Aus that will become extinct as its sales just plummet every year.


Re: GM to dump Holden - Gointocarlton - 05-09-2020

(05-09-2020, 04:06 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Early Jeeps were tough and great off road , which has been half of their appeal IMO but the quality started slipping and once they became a multi merged entity they have become dangerous and their service appalling.
I get it that long time Jeep owners love the brand but I think that was based on the old Jeeps especially the Grand Cherokees but the new variety are poorly designed and if I was going anywhere off road it would be in a Toyota Landcruiser only.
The SUV craze was probably spawned from the old Jeeps operating as dual function vehicles but IMO its now a brand especially in Aus that will become extinct as its sales just plummet every year.
They are the ugliest pieces of junk on the road, wouldn't have one if you paid me to drive to it.


Re: GM to dump Holden - LP - 06-02-2020

What are your thoughts on the coming Land Rover Defender 110 P400 HSE?


Re: GM to dump Holden - Gointocarlton - 06-02-2020

(06-02-2020, 04:25 AM)LP link Wrote:What are your thoughts on the coming Land Rover Defender 110 P400 HSE?
Good vehicles but dear as poison to buy and service. When crap goes wrong, kaching!! Got a mate who has owned them for a while, has plenty of coin but still whinges at the costs. My mechanic had a Disco 4 on the hoist one day and I asked him what it was in for, he said pads and discs, all 4 about $3.5K.


Re: GM to dump Holden - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-03-2020

(06-02-2020, 04:25 AM)LP link Wrote:What are your thoughts on the coming Land Rover Defender 110 P400 HSE?

Expensive, heavy and a few too many option packs IMO ,2k extra if you want anything other than a White one??? Land Rover service and backup isnt exactly anything flash either, is their a manual option or all auto's?....I'd probably go a Lexus if I wanted that end of the market.