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Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - northernblue - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 05:54 AM)laj link Wrote:
Excuses! Not interested in last year.
2 wins, no structure, poorly drilled, poor game plan. That's not injuries. That side we had playing on the weekend alone is alot better than 2 wins, 3 x 100pt defeats, including by a side with 16 men. We are so poorly drilled we couldn't handle and were outnumbered by a side with 16 thstbfound so much space and kicked goals at will. We were smashed by apoor sides by 10 goals. That's coaching! Then there's the lack of effort so often, meaning a lack of respect for the coach. None of the above is injury related. No amount of spin will change that.
It’s not excuses, it’s observation.
Sometimes you just have to suck it up no matter how bad it tastes.
Sack the coach now and you’ll be torching 1/2 the list and starting again... how long do you want the pain to go on for ?
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - laj - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 01:23 PM)northernblue link Wrote:It’s not excuses, it’s observation.
Sometimes you just have to suck it up no matter how bad it tastes.
Sack the coach now and you’ll be torching 1/2 the list and starting again... how long do you want the pain to go on for ?
It's a poor excuse for 2 wins. Alright excuse for 6 wins. Given we won 6 last year and led 7 times in last qtrs and lost you expect 10 wins this year. With injuries that isn't happening but 6 should. Even the side we put out there last week is good enough for that. But we got 2 wins, a lot of totally poor effort, no structure, poor game plan and confused players. That part isn't injuries. That's just piss weak. The coach is poor and with thrashings by bottom sides, 3 x 100pt defeats, one to a side that smashed us with 16 men in a qtr and poor efforts what the hell do you put that down too. If that's your observation prepare for severe disappointment. 2 wins!
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - flyboy77 - 08-27-2018
I have to agree that the game plan is poor - or non existent and that the players are not getting it! >
>We really do need some new blood/fresh ideas on the coaching panel, especially come match day.
I'm not for culling BB - but the results certainly need to flow pretty quickly in 2019 or he will be goneski. And rightly so.
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - cookie2 - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 08:45 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:I have to agree that the game plan is poor - or non existent and that the players are not getting it! >
We really do need some new blood/fresh ideas on the coaching panel, especially come match day.
I'm not for culling BB - but the results certainly need to flow pretty quickly in 2019 or he will be goneski. And rightly so.
Our efforts have been abject overall save for a few players who have been trying their guts out to no avail. We just have too many who did not seem to want to put in or who had no idea of their role or what was expected of them. This state of affairs just cannot continue. Something has to change, change big time and pdq! BB must focus on winning some games in the early part of next year or the pitchforks will be dusted off for sure. It will be fascinating to see how matters unfold.
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - capcom - 08-27-2018
Bolton should be subject to a ruthless end of season review to justify his position ... brutal, but needed nonetheless
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - Professer E - 08-27-2018
Yes, must be told specific areas to improve in, which then become non negotiable KPIs for reappointment. Reading the critiques of his match day coaching in this forum provides a starting point of some issues to address.
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - PaulP - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 10:07 PM)capcom link Wrote:Bolton should be subject to a ruthless end of season review to justify his position ... brutal, but needed nonetheless
Not just Bolton - the entire club. We need to get the mob that did the Pies and Tigers audits in the last couple of years. Given the turn around in those two clubs, that company seems to know what they're doing.
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - madbluboy - 08-27-2018
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-27/by-the-numbers-inefficient-blues-blow-it
Quote: CARLTON'S triple-digit defeat to Adelaide on Saturday night will go down as one of the most woefully inefficient performances since the turn of the century.
The Blues' third loss of the season by more than 100 points came despite them winning inside 50s (61-54), clearances (37-30), contested possessions (144-128) and hit-outs (36-34).
The Blues were the only team this year to win the inside 50s and lose by 100 points and also to win contested possessions and suffer a triple-digit defeat, as well as becoming the second to win clearances and lose by that margin.
Carlton was also the first team in 90 matches since 2002 to go down by 100 points or more despite having an inside 50 advantage.
The last time a side lost by at least 100 points but won the inside 50s was coincidentally the Crows in round four, 2000, when West Coast beat them by 114 points but had five fewer inside 50s.
"It's disappointing," Bolton said after the 104-point hiding at Adelaide's hands.
"We win the inside 50s, funnily enough, in a big loss. Clearly, there's some issues with efficiency.
"We turned the ball over far too much – some ordinary decisions. We've got a lot of work to do in that space."
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - PaulP - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 11:28 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-27/by-the-numbers-inefficient-blues-blow-it
Winning the clearances and the CP's is basically down to Cripps. Winning the I50's is an indication that however clumsily or haphazardly, the ball is getting to where we need it to be. It's not as if we're trapped in our back half the whole game. But that's where it ends IMO. Just too many skill errors, turnovers, bad decision making, lack of pressure etc.
The Crows scored 13 goals from stoppages. That's terrible. Little wonder Clarke was shown the door.
Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide - LP - 08-27-2018
(08-27-2018, 11:28 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-08-27/by-the-numbers-inefficient-blues-blow-it
Anyone with a modicum of intellect, a fraction of interest in football and had watched even one Carlton game could tell you our ball use is deplorable. If they had watched us over several years they would be able to tell you it hadn't improved despite changing three senior coaches!
It's bizarre that professional sports journalists write such stories like they are a revelation!
Also note this week, Caro and her band of merry followers are beating the pavement offer all Carlton fans and the AFL their considerable advice on why our club has blown the rebuild! SOS and The Judge are clearly the target of this vitriol, it must be a slow news week or there is something requiring a distraction like a Nthmond or Pies player on the dope!