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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-06-2018

(07-06-2018, 01:35 AM)Lods link Wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I998116,CD_I1000953&comparisonTab=h2h

Two very different types of forwards. One's the typical FF, good and quick on the lead, the other is more likely to try to take a mark as well as being capable kick goals running type goals. Mckay is likely to take Levi's role. We have plenty of variety with our KP forwards.

Good to see Mckay is above average in tackles.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - flyboy77 - 07-06-2018

(07-06-2018, 02:20 AM)LP link Wrote:If we could combine Kerr's work ethic and sacrificial efforts with McKay's physical attributes and goal scoring we'd be on a winner.

In Kerr's second game I watched him make unrewarded lead after lead as if we had some stupid upfield decision making or game plan, it's like we didn't trust him to make the ball or kick the goal. We were playing Geelong and I made the comment to a mate that Kerr obviously had the Brownless decoy forward role for this week! Kerr would lead up to the ball carrier, and we'd kick over his head to someone like Wright, SPS or Lamb in the pocket surrounded by three Geelong defenders.

But we've been doing this for years, it's bullsh1t football!

Kick the ball to the lead-up forward , and tell the smalls to get off the cheap goal drip-feed and get out front and square, you don't have to be Einstein!

Yep, this so true sadly.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-06-2018

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-06/why-the-blues-dropped-levi#/


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-06-2018

The AFL media is pumping up Charlie the Lion killer.

Obviously they want Hodge to surgically remove a kidney!

Personally I hope Kerr gets a run and Hodge tries to fill his space!


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 07-06-2018

(07-05-2018, 10:11 PM)LP link Wrote:Phillips is not "physically" aggressive like Martin, not even close! Phillips will wrestle, but in the past he'd take a back step if someone starts jumping into him like Mumford or Martin do! It's fair enough, Phillips has been on the end of a lot of injuries, but he's got time he's still 2 or 3 years away from being at his peak.

This time next season will be a good tell for a fit Phillips.

Taking a backwards step in the ruck is not a sign of weakness its a tactic. Every ruckman who can do it, does so, when the opportunity arises.

Ruckman jump early to essentially 'ground' opposition ruckmen. If they go too early, step back, let them go up...and down, and while they are on the way down reach up and get the tap. Kreuzer does it too.

Phillips isn't as physical as Mumford was, but nobody was.
Phillips has actually got a bit of agro about him. Must be the hair. I'm more than happy with what he offers. If he could get some continuity at AFL level, he'd surprise many on here, and in the AFL.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - Professer E - 07-06-2018

Phillips, if fit,  would be in my 22 each week.  But I'd play K different  to how we play him.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - RiverRat - 07-06-2018

(07-05-2018, 11:14 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I like it.
- I reckon IF Kreuzer plays, he'll play fwd alot and Phillips will have a crack at Martin. All Flip needs to do is break even with Martin (like he did vs Ryder). Mackay or Kerr will come in if Kreuzer doesnt get up.
- Dow needs a rest.
- Levi was bad last week, whether it was form or a sore hand, either way the omission is good.
- Mullet and Garlett omissions fair enough.
- Marchy straight in, I guess thats how highly he is rated internally and quite frankly, I happy to see him back. If he doesnt come up, Kerr may come in.

Hard to argue - so I won't.

I would like to see Kreuzer spend a little time as a non-rucking midfielder


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-06-2018

(07-06-2018, 08:37 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Hard to argue - so I won't.

I would like to see Kreuzer spend a little time as a non-rucking midfielder

Why would you play Kreuzer as a midfielder when you can play a midfielder there. He's a ruckman who's good around the ground, not a running mid. It's the the stupid idea of playing two ruckman. Other than failing us most times, it effects both player's game. A ruck is going to be forward near the entire game when neither are any good at it. Why play a ruck up forward when you are play a forward who hit's the scoreboard. Levi needed to be dropped (for McKay) but he kicked 34 goals last year. Kreuzer and Phillips wouldn't get half of that combined. To win game you need a properly balanced side playing their roles and to their strengths. We play our's to our weaknesses. Two rucks and 4 tall defenders, just Charlie as our key forward. What actually goes on at Match Committee level.


Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - Thryleon - 07-06-2018

(07-06-2018, 09:13 AM)laj link Wrote:Why would you play Kreuzer as a midfielder when you can play a midfielder there. He's a ruckman who's good around the ground, not a running mid. It's the the stupid idea of playing two ruckman. Other than failing us most times, it effects both player's game. A ruck is going to be forward near the entire game when neither are any good at it. Why play a ruck up forward when you are play a forward who hit's the scoreboard. Levi needed to be dropped (for McKay) but he kicked 34 goals last year. Kreuzer and Phillips wouldn't get half of that combined. To win game you need a properly balanced side playing their roles and to their strengths. We play our's to our weaknesses. Two rucks and 4 tall defenders, just Charlie as our key forward. What actually goes on at Match Committee level.
we are not full of fit midfielders at the moment.




Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane - madbluboy - 07-06-2018

(07-06-2018, 09:13 AM)laj link Wrote:Why would you play Kreuzer as a midfielder when you can play a midfielder there. He's a ruckman who's good around the ground, not a running mid. It's the the stupid idea of playing two ruckman. Other than failing us most times, it effects both player's game. A ruck is going to be forward near the entire game when neither are any good at it. Why play a ruck up forward when you are play a forward who hit's the scoreboard. Levi needed to be dropped (for McKay) but he kicked 34 goals last year. Kreuzer and Phillips wouldn't get half of that combined. To win game you need a properly balanced side playing their roles and to their strengths. We play our's to our weaknesses. Two rucks and 4 tall defenders, just Charlie as our key forward. What actually goes on at Match Committee level.

We have been playing one ruck most of the year and how is that working out for us?