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Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - laj - 06-21-2018

(06-21-2018, 10:07 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I thought Grundy and Sidebottom were BOG last time, their mids slaughtered us on mass.....one of our main problems is we let the opposition star players get too much of the ball every week...Grundy's possies and Sidebottoms possies are going to hurt more than Kruezer's or Eds for example......Cripps also got taken out of the game by Pendlebury/Crisp at stoppages and Cripps didnt bother picking them up the other way either...its the same story every week.
Clearances are subjective IMO...you only win a clearance IMO if they areĀ  any good...Ed winning a clearance and sending it straight to a opposition player isnt a clearance IMO....its a turnover...



That happens after the contest though. Disposal is for us to work on. Win the clearances and the other ruck isn't dominate, which is what we are talking about here. We don't need the 2nd ruckman, never works and slows us up. Looks a chance we might finally go a bit smaller this week. Hopefully we do.

Yes, we got slaughtered in 30 min of football. Somehow stayed within 24pts. Remember Kreuzer doing pretty well though. Remember Grundy doing very well though and getting Coaches votes.



Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 06-21-2018

(06-21-2018, 10:15 AM)blue4life link Wrote:????

Jokes aside though after a performance like last week and these players are the best available in the VFL?
Crikey.

Yes. When you have 4 teams all occupying the lower rungs on the ladder, the door is feeling very lonely and unloved, because nobody's knocking.


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - blue4life - 06-21-2018

(06-21-2018, 10:44 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Yes. When you have 4 teams all occupying the lower rungs on the ladder, the door is feeling very lonely and unloved, because nobody's knocking.

Kennedy might get a game at a couple of battling clubs but none of the other inclusions would on their exposed form.
We really are struggling, it's impossible to judge Bolton when this is what he's got to work with.
Edit: The way things are going West Coast might kick a lower score tonight than we did last week, 1.8 half way through the third quarter.


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - RiverRat - 06-21-2018

(06-21-2018, 09:35 AM)crashlander link Wrote:CARLTON
B: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Kade Simpson
HB: Aaron Mullett, Jacob Weitering, Dale Thomas
C: Lochie O'Brien, Patrick Cripps, Zac Fisher
HF: Jed Lamb, Charlie Curnow, Ed Curnow
F: Cameron Polson, Matthew Wright, Sam Petrevski-Seton
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Jack Silvagni, Paddy Dow
Int: Darcy Lang, Levi Casboult, Nick Graham, Pat Kerr, Sam Rowe, Jarrod Garlett, Andrew Phillips, Matthew Kennedy (Four to be omitted)


Last time Grundy hurt us even though Kreuzer did quite well around the ground. We really need a 2nd ruck option. Where we get it or not, is another question.
It is likely that a tall forward might miss out, Casboult did nothing last week, but will be better for the run. Kerr needs to find his confidence in his kicking again. And all it is, is confidence. He'll be fine when he believes!
Last time we also didn't respect Sidebottom enough: we need to squash him. It doesn't look likely, but we must.

Too many lightweights in the midfield - Phillips = ruck, Kreuzer = ruck rover, C Curnow to spend some time in the midfield as well.


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - laj - 06-22-2018

Interesting outlook on last week's game.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/carlton-players-overcoached-not-lacking-effort-v-fremantle/news-story/0daf9d045880cbe460a79bbe9f0e2a1a


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 06-22-2018

(06-22-2018, 03:21 AM)laj link Wrote:Interesting outlook on last week's game.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/carlton-players-overcoached-not-lacking-effort-v-fremantle/news-story/0daf9d045880cbe460a79bbe9f0e2a1a

Montagna would probably make a good assistant coach....he may have burnt his prospects for a Carlton job in the short term though. Wink

He'll probably have a pretty successful media career anyway. Big Grin


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 06-22-2018

(06-22-2018, 03:30 AM)Lods link Wrote:Montagna would probably make a good assistant coach....he may have burnt his prospects for a Carlton job in the short term though. Wink
A dumber kent you will not meet.


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 06-22-2018

(06-22-2018, 03:33 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:A dumber kent you will not meet.

Personal experience?



Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 06-22-2018

(06-22-2018, 03:21 AM)laj link Wrote:Interesting outlook on last week's game.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/carlton-players-overcoached-not-lacking-effort-v-fremantle/news-story/0daf9d045880cbe460a79bbe9f0e2a1a

I reckon he might be on to something. Young rookie coach feels as though he has to prove himself, so tries too hard to show he's the man for the job by coaching excessively. I'm sure it's happened before. Maybe let the players play on instinct more.


Re: 2018 Rd 14; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 06-22-2018

(06-22-2018, 04:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I reckon he might be on to something. Young rookie coach feels as though he has to prove himself, so tries too hard to show he's the man for the job by coaching excessively. I'm sure it's happened before. Maybe let the players play on instinct more.

That we push forward and leave our defense outnumbered? :o