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Re: Leadership Group 2018 - Gointocarlton - 02-07-2018

(02-07-2018, 12:51 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Having 6, 7 or 8 leaders out on the field at one time is too many.

Why not make it 11 and then we'll have a boss for every player?
More is better. If you had 22 "leaders" on he field, theoretically you don't need any (if that makes sense).


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - cookie2 - 02-07-2018

As a previous poster noted, we are in a period of transition with both older and younger players in the leadership group. As the younger guys mature and the older guys finish up I would expect the size of the leadership group to be reduced.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - DJC - 02-07-2018

(02-07-2018, 04:31 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:As a previous poster noted, we are in a period of transition with both older and younger players in the leadership group. As the younger guys mature and the older guys finish up I would expect the size of the leadership group to be reduced.

I'm not sure that will happen Cookie.  I expect our leadership group to fluctuate according to our needs and the quality of our leaders.  I don't think that it will get much bigger and I'd be surprised if it dropped below five or six.

I like the mix of mature players and up and coming leaders and I'd like to see that continue.  However, our poor drafting has skewed our age demographics and, unless we bring in more mature aged recruits, we may run out of older leaders.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-07-2018

My father served in world war 2 and said there were many officers but only a few capable of leading...

How many real leaders do we have? Just because you nominate leaders it doesnt make them leaders..exhibit A: Taylor Walker from the Crows....


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - cookie2 - 02-07-2018

(02-07-2018, 05:09 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'm not sure that will happen Cookie.  I expect our leadership group to fluctuate according to our needs and the quality of our leaders.  I don't think that it will get much bigger and I'd be surprised if it dropped below five or six.

I like the mix of mature players and up and coming leaders and I'd like to see that continue.  However, our poor drafting has skewed our age demographics and, [b]unless we bring in more mature aged recruits, we may run out of older leaders.[/b]

I think one of the major roles of the more mature older leaders will  certainly be to support and assist the emerging leaders. As those younger guys get more experienced and mature - hopefully this year - the need for the older guys should reduce. Another younger/emerging leader or two may then be added to the group to replace them I guess and a cycle established for the supply of future leadership of the club. All speculation of course but it'll be interesting.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - Thryleon - 02-07-2018

The whole point of leadership is for people to lift the others when the chips are down.

Not to be "the boss".

What is important is how they all act and react when necessary.

I was a captain once.  I played 18 of 20 captains games, and the other 2 had lost my head for one reason or another.

That's where your additional captains come into the equation.  Not to boss people around.  Sometimes people struggle with their role, and leadership, and having additional leaders around is to help spread that load around.  Not for bossing people around.

True leaders don't boss people around anyway.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - PaulP - 02-07-2018

I'd be trying to recruit players who take it upon themselves to lift when required, as opposed to those types who are unable to do so, who wait for some "external inspiration." It's hard enough playing your best week in week out, without the additional burden of lifting higher because others are not able to.

It's not about skill - it's about effort, attitude and desire.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - kruddler - 02-07-2018

(02-07-2018, 06:40 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'd be trying to recruit players who take it upon themselves to lift when required, as opposed to those types who are unable to do so, who wait for some "external inspiration." It's hard enough playing your best week in week out, without the additional burden of lifting higher because others are not able to.

It's not about skill - it's about effort, attitude and desire.

Which is why i've been praising Daisy since he arrived at the club. No matter what BS has been plastered in the media and no matter how much crap he cops from his own supporters, you can never question his effort, attitude and desire.


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - cookie2 - 02-07-2018

Bosses talk about "I" and "you". Leaders talk about "we".


Re: Leadership Group 2018 - PaulP - 02-07-2018

(02-07-2018, 07:41 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Which is why i've been praising Daisy since he arrived at the club. No matter what BS has been plastered in the media and no matter how much crap he cops from his own supporters, you can never question his effort, attitude and desire.

I guess so, but he's a sore point as I'm sure you'll agree, and not quite what I had in mind when I posted.

But fair enough.