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Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - madbluboy - 07-10-2017

If we kept Fev we could have won the flag in 2011.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:31 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Fev was a drunken yobbo but he was four times the footballer Casboult is.
Levi's played every one of his 90 odd games at full forward, averages a tick over a goal a game and has never kicked more than four in a match.
In fact in about 35 of his 90 odd games he's scored donuts.
I couldn't care less if he's a better mark than Sticks Kernahan, a full forward's job is to hit the scoreboard.

Not sure that I'd call Fev a drunken yob, but yes he is 4x the player Casboult is - but then, Fev is 4x better than most forwards.

A rather unfair comparison IMO.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - shadesy - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:39 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:If we kept Fev we could have won the flag in 2011.

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Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:39 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Not sure that I'd call Fev a drunken yob, but yes he is 4x the player Casboult is - but then, Fev is 4x better than most forwards.

A rather unfair comparison IMO.

It wasn't meant as a 1 to 1 comparison.

It was about replacing an important part of your structure.

The fact we were essentially able to replace a guy of Fevs talents, should make people more agreeable when it comes to replacing/upgrading Casboult.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - blue4life - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:39 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Not sure that I'd call Fev a drunken yob, but yes he is 4x the player Casboult is - but then, Fev is 4x better than most forwards.

A rather unfair comparison IMO.

Why is it unfair?
Heck, Setanta O'Hailpin played a season and a half at full back and another in the ruck and his goal average was only marginally less than Casboult's, and Brad Fisher's was a fair slice better.
We aren't talking about gun players here.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:50 AM)kruddler link Wrote:It wasn't meant as a 1 to 1 comparison.

It was about replacing an important part of your structure.

The fact we were essentially able to replace a guy of Fevs talents, should make people more agreeable when it comes to replacing/upgrading Casboult.

I see - my bad.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - blue4life - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:50 AM)kruddler link Wrote:It wasn't meant as a 1 to 1 comparison.

It was about replacing an important part of your structure.

The fact we were essentially able to replace a guy of Fevs talents, should make people more agreeable when it comes to replacing/upgrading Casboult.

It's a moot point.
We won't be replacing Casboult any time soon because we simply have no other options, so we'll keep pumping up his tyres as only one eyed football supporters can.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:31 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I couldn't care less if he's a better mark than Sticks Kernahan, a full forward's job is to hit the scoreboard.

I almost brought Sticks' name up before.

A lot of people thought he was a terrible kick, and he kinda was.
A lot of people remember the scores tied game against the bombers "any score will do" scenario after the siren. Out on the full.

However, i think it was the very next week that Sticks had a chance to redeem himself and kicked the winner at the death to show he can handle the pressure.

Casboult doesn't exhibit any of those signs to me, quite the opposite.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - LP - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 04:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Secondly,
Your %'s are out of whack. AFL website includes missed shots altogether.
Jack (15.14.4(oob) = 45.5%
Levi (23.13.7(oob) = 53.5%

8% difference between them, not 30.

I think you'll find Casboult has also had a few severe mis-kicks from inside F50 that failed to score but ended up being rushed, marked or punched OOB and won't be counted in those OOB stats.


Re: Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 07-10-2017

(07-10-2017, 06:59 AM)LP link Wrote:I think you'll find Casboult has also had a few severe mis-kicks from inside F50 that failed to score but ended up being rushed, marked or punched OOB and won't be counted in those OOB stats.

Yeah, i'm not sure if those OOB ones include that or not. Given Casboult only registered 7 'others' at this stage. I suspect you're right.