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Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - cookie2 - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 12:13 PM)PaulP link Wrote:As Clarko correctly said, leg speed and ball movement speed are not the same thing, and they don't always coexist in the same team. The latter is much more important than the former. We need to be moving the ball a lot faster - it's been too stop start in the first three rounds, giving the opposition too much time to set up.
Too much of our good work in trying to move the ball quickly has been undone by skill errors or poor disposal. I'm hoping the new guys will start to make a difference by eliminating this on a dry track. Kerridge (poor disposal) and Graham (slow/poor disposal) being dropped is part of this drive.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - PaulP - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 12:27 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Too much of our good work in trying to move the ball quickly has been undone by skill errors or poor disposal. I'm hoping the new guys will start to make a difference by eliminating this on a dry track. Kerridge (poor disposal) and Graham (slow/poor disposal) being dropped is part of this drive.
Yes - although you need to get your goals within a certain time frame, because teams can only hang onto the ball for short periods at a time.
If you watch any game of footy, the most any team can hang onto the ball is 2 or 3 minutes, and that's a maximum, even when they play keepings off. After this time period, you either turn it over to the opposition, or else the ball becomes contested. Teams can of course string together a few of these 2 or 3 minute plays, but even then it's a stretch.
There is merit in the "play on fast" style of play, because you're seeking the quickest possible avenue to goal, and trying to score before the inevitable turnover occurs. Too much dicking around with the ball is a big problem for us IMO.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - Professer E - 04-13-2017
A lot of faith being shown in Charlie, straight in after injury.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - BluePhantom - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 12:51 PM)Professer E link Wrote:A lot of faith being shown in Charlie, straight in after injury.The kid has talent, he has shown it, he just lacks the confidence that he belongs.
Maybe he has taken a big hit or something else is in his head or even what BB is asking him to do goes against his natural game style.
So he is always double checking his actions not doing things 2nd nature like.
He just needs a game where he takes a couple of grabs in front of goals and slots them and then I think we will see the real CC.
Just say CC
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - kruddler - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 12:27 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Too much of our good work in trying to move the ball quickly has been undone by skill errors or poor disposal. I'm hoping the new guys will start to make a difference by eliminating this on a dry track. Kerridge (poor disposal) and Graham (slow/poor disposal) being dropped is part of this drive.
Been dropped before getting a game! Harsh.
I think you mean Palmer.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - flyboy77 - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 08:00 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:The kid has talent, he has shown it, he just lacks the confidence that he belongs.
Maybe he has taken a big hit or something else is in his head or even what BB is asking him to do goes against his natural game style.
So he is always double checking his actions not doing things 2nd nature like.
He just needs a game where he takes a couple of grabs in front of goals and slots them and then I think we will see the real CC.
Just say CC
i recall back when the 2015 draft was imminent there were a few scribes suggesting young Charlie could even have been a possible #1 in his draft but for that indiscretion!!
His ability to play anywhere is extraordinary and what? He's now grown to 194cm or so? Yes, he should be given time, Bolts needs to work out how to best use him to get him involved in a game....
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - cookie2 - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 10:31 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Been dropped before getting a game! Harsh.
I think you mean Palmer.
Sorry, my mistake! I think Graham would be seen in similar light though even so.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - Lods - 04-13-2017
(04-13-2017, 09:18 AM)jeza link Wrote:I'm still happy to see him play but he was absolutely dropped last week.
Mostly because of the conditions but he was still dropped.
re Curnow
It could have only been because of the conditions on Sunday because if he was fit to play it wouldn't have made a lot of sense to deny him game time in the VFL on Saturday.
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - jeza - 04-14-2017
(04-13-2017, 11:19 PM)Lods link Wrote:re Curnow
It could have only been because of the conditions on Sunday because if he was fit to play it wouldn't have made a lot of sense to deny him game time in the VFL on Saturday.
He was effectively emergency anyway meaning he still wouldn't have played.
More often than not we have a late change. Do you think there is a plague of warm up injuries affecting the club... or Bolton loves trying to wrong foot the opposition lineup?
Re: 2017 Round 4 : Pre Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast - Lods - 04-14-2017
Still think that at this stage it's important for him to be playing games not sitting on the sidelines.
If fit... he plays. Whether that's in the first team or VFL
In fact given his start to the season it's probably important for him to be getting game time.
His playing or missing for Palmer wouldn't have caused Essendon to much heartache in terms of tactical match-ups