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Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Peter Brady - 07-16-2016
The one or two ruckman argument should surely depend on the opposition we are facing.
We are not a good enough side that we can set up and say "this is us, it's up to you to match up on us"
Sometimes it will be to our advantage to play just one ruck and stack up elsewhere.
At other times it will be a recipe for disaster.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Gointocarlton - 07-16-2016
(07-16-2016, 08:39 AM)Peter Brady link Wrote:The one or two ruckman argument should surely depend on the opposition we are facing.Good call PB.
We are not a good enough side that we can set up and say "this is us, it's up to you to match up on us"
Sometimes it will be to our advantage to play just one ruck and stack up elsewhere.
At other times it will be a recipe for disaster.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Bear - 07-16-2016
I think playing one forward is a bigger issue than 1 or 2 rucks... probably could have played 1 ruck this week, given West Coast only have 1.
Our ruck duo need to contribute tomorrow. If they can't beat Lycett...
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Robblues - 07-16-2016
Hope to be wrong but think this will go down as the "Colosseum Game"
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - blue4life - 07-17-2016
(07-15-2016, 09:03 PM)BlueAvenger link Wrote:The let go of Jacobs and Betts are quite possibly a couple of the dumbest things the club has done in recent times along with the recruitment of big-money Daisy.
Betts wanted to go home and Adelaide paid him handsomely to do so, he won't be playing when we are competitive again so it was no long term loss.
Thomas was a good recruit but we probably paid overs in dollar terms, he was suspect with injury at the time and I doubt that any other club would have paid what we did, at least we didn't trade anything of value for him I guess.
The critical mistake was losing Jacobs, but our management of the time preferred both Warnock and Hampson to him so his wanting out shouldn't have come as any surprise.
We've made some shocking list management decisions over the journey, which combined with our woeful recruiting has left us where we are today.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Gointocarlton - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 12:05 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Betts wanted to go home and Adelaide paid him handsomely to do so, he won't be playing when we are competitive again so it was no long term loss.Our story in one very accurate sentence.
Thomas was a good recruit but we probably paid overs in dollar terms, he was suspect with injury at the time and I doubt that any other club would have paid what we did, at least we didn't trade anything of value for him I guess.
The critical mistake was losing Jacobs, but our management of the time preferred both Warnock and Hampson to him so his wanting out shouldn't have come as any surprise.
We've made some shocking list management decisions over the journey, which combined with our woeful recruiting has left us where we are today.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - PaulP - 07-17-2016
We didn't "probably" pay overs for Daisy - we definitely did. His output has been nowhere near what we'd hoped. I'll be watching very closely to see what the club does with him once his contract ends.
EDIT : we don't have the depth to take risks on injury prone players.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Gointocarlton - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 12:38 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We didn't "probably" pay overs for Daisy - we definitely did. His output has been nowhere near what we'd hoped. I'll be watching very closely to see what the club does with him once his contract ends.I would think even Daisy would agree that the coin he was signed to (and I repeat, what I have been told is its not what is reported in the media) will not be repeated in his next contract if they offer him one. I will be more interested to see what Daisy does come contract time. How committed is he to Carlton? Will he take a significant hair cut to remain part of the group or will he shop himself around for $$$? Will he join his mate Heaffy at GWS for $$$? It will be very interesting.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - PaulP - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 12:45 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I would think even Daisy would agree that the coin he was signed to (and I repeat, what I have been told is its not what is reported in the media) will not be repeated in his next contract if they offer him one. I will be more interested to see what Daisy does come contract time. How committed is he to Carlton? Will he take a significant hair cut to remain part of the group or will he shop himself around for $$$? Will he join his mate Heaffy at GWS for $$$? It will be very interesting.
I've said it before - I have no issue with Daisy per se, but his future is basically making up the numbers. If we do offer him another contract, it will surely be on a year by year basis, and on a much reduced wage. I can't see any other club being interested, except as a depth player.
Re: Rd 17 : Pre Game polite and refined discourse - Blues v Eagles - Gointocarlton - 07-17-2016
(07-17-2016, 12:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I've said it before - I have no issue with Daisy per se, but his future is basically making up the numbers. If we do offer him another contract, it will surely be on a year by year basis, and on a much reduced wage. I can't see any other club being interested, except as a depth player.Agree