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Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - RiverRat - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 09:31 AM)Bear link Wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but watching Jones line up for that last goal was a real sphincter tightening experience.
I was just glad it wasn't Levi
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - RiverRat - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 09:45 AM)laj link Wrote:Actually, regarding Jones, they were the very things he did so well in the VFL last well. Led and used his body very well. Much different in the seniors admittedly but when the delivery is so poor it doesn't give one alot of hope. What it did do was allow Casboult to play up the ground, take a number of marks and get 16 touches, 6 more than Kreuzer and Phillips put together, and be some sort of influence. Good argument for Casboult being 2nd ruck.
Levi is a much better player at CHF than FF - almost impossible to spoil on the lead whereas he is too easily outnumbered and out-positioned at FF - doesn't hurt that he doesn't have to be relied upon to kick goals.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - RiverRat - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 09:46 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I still can't really believe it, we had a red hot crack and never dropped our heads but our skills at times were as bad as ever, Freo has totally lost the plot.
If we'd drafted Ciaran Byrne with pick 10 or 12 in the national draft we'd be rapt, I always thought Zac Tuohy showed plenty but if anything Byrne is ahead of him at the same stage.
I thought Kreuzer was much better this week, Casboult actually had a good game but his kicking for goal is atrocious and his non handball to Buckley was inexplicable, Jones was a non event for most of the day but it was nice to see him have a big hand in the finish.
Rowe was very good, so were Wright and Kerridge.
Cripps, Murphy and Gibbs were all top notch and Thomas did what we pay him for, but some of the lesser lights also put in big ones which is what we need to see more of.
Forgot to mention Ed Curnow, apart from his usual suspect foot skills he played a great game.
Excellent to be off the bottom at least, go Blues and bring on the Bumblers!
Starting Kreuzer in the ruck worked on 3 levels - we have better clearance effectiveness when he is in the middle - he is next to useless as a forward (and useless was more effective today) - and Phillips was more effective rucking late in the game when his leaping ability came to the fore
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - RiverRat - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 10:31 AM)shadesy link Wrote:Wow Jeza....
I am not Liam Jones biggest fan, but he worked really hard today, got himself in good positions only to be missed by foot or overlooked. lamb beat Pearce one on one for a great goal but Liam had made a really good lead and should gave bee spotted up.
His two goals were reward for effort and we looked better with a few targets.
Even though he didn't trouble the stats man early in the game, I thought Jones got to more overhead marking contests to force the ball down than Levi or the ruckmen have been doing in recent weeks.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - jeza - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 01:46 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:Even though he didn't trouble the stats man early in the game, I thought Jones got to more overhead marking contests to force the ball down than Levi or the ruckmen have been doing in recent weeks.
I'll have to watch the replay but I was watching him pretty closely and his efforts were precious few and really bad.
Anyway - can we trade Lachie Neale for Jones next year? Clubs always overrate players who kicked goals against them.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - LoveNavy - 04-24-2016
Watched the game (you'll be pleased to know it was with lots of fellow baggers). Here's my 2 cents worth FWIW.
Standouts
- Daisy was dangerous up forward
- Byrne oozes confidence and self- belief, can run and carry, isn't scared of anything (blood rule x 3 in past 2 games)
- Murphy led by example, head over the ball, got belted up, and just kept running. Kicked a captain's goal
- Simmo was clean and his usual courageous and instructive
- Rowe, yes Rowe was a general. He instructed his defenders and beat the Pav repeatedly. If he could mark a few of the spoils, he'd give his forwards a headache
- Crippa is a champion who believes in his teammates (50:50 results - this will improve as the list improves)
- Weitering has so much time.... If you want to see him out of Mr Composed mode - win the game, his celebration was priceless - he couldn't stop grinning
- Ex-Crows add so much grunt to our game. 2-3rd efforts get the tick
- Lamb seemed to be everywhere, albeit at times without polish (I don't think we're a polished type side just yet)
Somewhere in between
The Jones boy - totally seemed to mis read play at times, meaning he'd be too pooped for 2nds. Liam Jones - take a bow son. When you needed to mark and slot it - you did just that. You've earned another game.
Serviceable
- Gibbs, although he missed a very gettable set shot, he linked nicely and kicked true when the heat was on. He needs to develop this consistently. Looked to be giving plenty of advice to young fellas
- Curnow's are unstoppable runners. I think Charlie's work off the ball, and even in defence ran his defender ragged.
- Buckley had a crack and looked to improve defensively
- GWS. The Plow played his role and showed a few tricks - he's going to be such an upgrade in our defense. Sumner's defensive pressure and energy impressed
- Casboult works really hard around the ground but still hasn't nailed his kicking. His contribution up field might be a worry for some teams
- Rucks tapped well but not much more
- Doc was courageous but uncharacteristically (or characteristic of the game) fumbly, especially early on
- 2e, not his best game
In all, can't fault the effort and perseverance. As we know, skills leave a lot to be desired, especially set shots. Several players missed gettable shots.
I saw some structure, leadership and teamwork as though the new plan is starting to stick.
Blue baggers we might not see many wins this year. So enjoy your celebrations.
Go Blues
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 11:55 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Has anyone watched Lyon's presser ? Am I the only one who thinks it's a drunken, incoherent, meandering thing ?
I like to watch Lyons presser most weeks when they lose.....he talks rubbish, quotes stats and never says anything thats coherent..
its a lot of piss taking stuff and he often asks the press boys what they think then bags them out when they answer...did cut up rough
tonight at the end though...
You watch him in the coaches box too, he says he is democratic and invites input but his assistants seem too scared to comment...
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - Brettie - 04-24-2016
Should've beaten Richmond: Murphy plays well.
Beat Freo: Murphy plays well.
Generally poo in between the above mentioned games: Murphy is either injured or didn't play well.
Might be something in that.....
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - PaulP - 04-24-2016
(04-24-2016, 02:34 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I like to watch Lyons presser most weeks when they lose.....he talks rubbish, quotes stats and never says anything thats coherent..
its a lot of piss taking stuff and he often asks the press boys what they think then bags them out when they answer...did cut up rough
tonight at the end though...
You watch him in the coaches box too, he says he is democratic and invites input but his assistants seem too scared to comment...
Thanks Elwood.
Yes, if this is the way he instructs and coaches the players, it's little wonder they're falling away so sharply.
Re: Rd 5: Post Game Party!: Carlton vs. Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 04-24-2016
How good is it waking the morning after a win. Ugly win but nonetheless a win and another step in the right direction. They maintained the pressure on Freo for 4 qtrs which is the most pleasing thing for me.
Go Blues.