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Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - PaulP - 04-04-2016
On Gibbs : his softness has been discussed / debated ad nauseam on here and elsewhere. References abound to him looking for easy receives, following the pack, picking and choosing when to go etc.
My possibly stupid question is this :
he's had Pagan, Ratts, Malthouse and Bolton as senior coaches. Included in these coaching changes are also a couple of changes in the senior admin, board etc. of the club. If his various issues are reported accurately here and elsewhere, how is it that he is still on our list ? And not only still there, but one of our highest paid players ? How is it possible that he has managed to flim flam one coach and admin after another ?
Are there mitigating circumstances, or is it possible that our analyses are either inaccurate or one sided ?
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - PassIt2Carrots - 04-04-2016
@Paul
I think it's just the general talent he has, all coaches think they can tap into that and bring the best out of him.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - cimm1979 - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 01:34 AM)PaulP link Wrote:On Gibbs : his softness has been discussed / debated ad nauseam on here and elsewhere. References abound to him looking for easy receives, following the pack, picking and choosing when to go etc.
My possibly stupid question is this :
he's had Pagan, Ratts, Malthouse and Bolton as senior coaches. Included in these coaching changes are also a couple of changes in the senior admin, board etc. of the club. If his various issues are reported accurately here and elsewhere, how is it that he is still on our list ? And not only still there, but one of our highest paid players ? How is it possible that he has managed to flim flam one coach and admin after another ?
Are there mitigating circumstances, or is it possible that our analyses are either inaccurate or one sided ?
Maybe they think he has something to offer.
His first half was poor yesterday. His second half much better. But the fact remains that we need him to get near contests as an option and he just hasn't got the miles in the legs to keep offering options. At the contest he's stationary and either tries to play inside mid or kick off a step.
Anyway, I'm certain Bolts will hold the players accountable. If he needs to play differently I'm sure that will be communicated to him, but the fact remains they just have far more quality and the more quality you have the better you look, particularly if you work as hard as the Sydney mids.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - PassIt2Carrots - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 01:42 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:His first half was poor yesterday. His second half much better. But the fact remains that we need him to get near contests as an option and he just hasn't got the miles in the legs to keep offering options. At the contest he's stationary and either tries to play inside mid or kick off a step.
I just want him to hold an overhead mark when he is under the pump, put his body on the line when it's his turn and not fumble when he hears the footsteps. Oh and that man bun does him no favours whatsoever considering the perception that surrounds him.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - cimm1979 - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 01:52 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I just want him to hold an overhead mark when he is under the pump, put his body on the line when it's his turn and not fumble when he hears the footsteps. Oh and that man bun does him no favours whatsoever considering the perception that is around him.
His fumbling is frustrating. Possibly worse this year than previous.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - cookie2 - 04-04-2016
Gibbs has not yet "flim-flammed" BB. In fact it's early days and I have no doubt that BB will judge Gibbs honestly on the contribution he makes this year. If he is judged as not up to the required standard then I have no doubts that SOS will be looking for a deal, along with any others who are judged similarly. This season is a real watershed AFAIC.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - Brettie - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 01:03 AM)DJC link Wrote:I listened to coverage of the second half on ABC radio and the commentators made the point that our ball movement from the midfield into the forward 50 was very poor.
Any comments?
No forward line structure, no leads, no marking options (where & wtf Casboult was doing for the 2nd & 3rd quarters is beyond me) - it's an absolute mess down there, midfield literally have no clue what to do when going forward....Simmo's ridiculous shot from about 60m out in the 3rd, into the waiting arms of one of 2 Swans players he could've kicked it to, was the perfect example. We're the easiest team to defend against bar none.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - jeza - 04-04-2016
(04-03-2016, 11:24 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Murph isn't really designed to be captain, nor is he designed to be an inside mid. His best year was 2011, when he played outside receiver. This allows the team to take full advantage of his skills, and minimizes any adverse impacts caused by his physical limitations.
Played at least half yesterday on the wing.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - cimm1979 - 04-04-2016
This isn't a forward line issue yet apart from how easily the Swans players could sweep up and get out of our forward line.
Swans had 26 more forward entries and I'll hazard a guess that the ball came in a lot easier and with a lot more one on one contests. Buddy and Tippet had a field day.
Re: Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion - PaulP - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 02:39 AM)jeza link Wrote:Played at least half yesterday on the wing.
That's good. Bolton, like Ratten, clearly gets it.