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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - madbluboy - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 11:37 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:So only the figures that support your opinion are spot on? lol
(03-17-2016, 11:33 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:They're made up just like these figures.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/carlton-lodges-dale-thomas-paperwork-with-afl/5002596
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - PassIt2Carrots - 03-17-2016
So none of the figures are right? He's on nothing. ;D
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - Thryleon - 03-17-2016
(03-17-2016, 11:22 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:The answer to that is quite simple, he is Mick and Swann's son and Swanny wanted to complete the quinella re looking after his favourite people.
maybe Carrots, but if its true, then our club was in dire straights and had no hope of pulling out of that mess with any credibility.
I don't know an organisation that is run by a CEO in isolation without input from many people which indicates we had multiple points of failure regarding all those poor decisions made.
In any case we have put it behind us, and no matter how bad these decisions were:
1. We have moved on.
2. It wont be a millstone that plagues us for more than a couple of years.
3. We shouldnt lose any young talent on the back of not having cap room as we frankly have SFA players left worth paying big dollars to anyway.
4. Regardess of what has happened, our future is looking up with SOS driving our policies in similar fashion to last year.
last but most importantly:
5. As abysmal as our decision making has proven to be, nothing has/or ever will hurt us as much as the decisions that the Collins administration made on the back of the poor decisions made by Elliott which has brought our club to the position its in today. We may have navagated out of our current mess much earlier with some better administration, but nothing compares to what happend back in 2004. The decision to cut ties with Brittain was just one poor decision in a long line of other poor decisions, but the breaches and penalties have rendered us a basket case beyond anything else we have or ever will experience ever again.
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - LP - 03-17-2016
The reported Daisy contract figures are more rubbery than the reported Betts contract figures.
One day the AFL media claim we lose players for paying them nothing, the next day the same spud reporters claim we recruit players by paying them overs.
They are into us because they are used to getting a reaction out of our club! Most of what they write is dead set rubbish!
Daisy's reported wage has gone up 40% since he joined the club, it must be performance bonuses!
They write stories like real-estate agents report prices! :o
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - madbluboy - 03-17-2016
If Daisy was on 200k he would still not be earning his money so I'm not sure why anyone here feels the need to inflate the figure? There is no need to.
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - LP - 03-18-2016
(03-17-2016, 11:58 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:If Daisy was on 200k he would still not be earning his money so I'm not sure why anyone here feels the need to inflate the figure? There is no need to.
In fairness to many posters on here, they are just believing what Anderson Ralph wrote, that was their first mistake!
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - DJC - 03-18-2016
(03-18-2016, 12:01 AM)LP link Wrote:In fairness to many posters on here, they are just believing what Anderson wrote, that was their first mistake!
Who is Anderson?
It doesn't really matter whether Daisy is on $600,000 or $750,000 per season. Reasonable due diligence would have revealed that $500,000 was more than enough and, more importantly, he would never get close to his best form.
Interestingly, his lack of leadership is revealed as one of the reasons Collingwood was keen to move him on.
It really was a poor, indeed inexplicable decision.
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - Pratty - 03-18-2016
Acquiring Dale Thomas was a stupid move and especially at that price, it is beyond belief that the hierarchy let it happen - or endorsed it!
Never again under SOS and BB!
Would love this to be Thomas and Jones last year sop we can just pay them out and free up a couple of extra spots on the list - or maybe down grade Jones to the rookie list for his final year next year if we can't afford to cut ties with him.
Thomas's contacts is hurting us and will continue until he goes.
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - LP - 03-18-2016
(03-18-2016, 12:29 AM)DJC link Wrote:Who is Anderson?
It doesn't really matter whether Daisy is on $600,000 or $750,000 per season. Reasonable due diligence would have revealed that $500,000 was more than enough and, more importantly, he would never get close to his best form.
Interestingly, his lack of leadership is revealed as one of the reasons Collingwood was keen to move him on.
It really was a poor, indeed inexplicable decision.
My bad, it was Jon Ralph writing the article not Jon Anderson.
Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.
Cannot take much notice of Collingwood's statements, they are all after the fact and they have a vested interest in bashing Carlton, but at the time they were ultra-bitter about Daisy's departure.
Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension - PassIt2Carrots - 03-18-2016
(03-17-2016, 11:44 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:maybe Carrots, but if its true, then our club was in dire straights and had no hope of pulling out of that mess with any credibility.
I don't know an organisation that is run by a CEO in isolation without input from many people which indicates we had multiple points of failure regarding all those poor decisions made.
In any case we have put it behind us, and no matter how bad these decisions were:
1. We have moved on.
2. It wont be a millstone that plagues us for more than a couple of years.
3. We shouldnt lose any young talent on the back of not having cap room as we frankly have SFA players left worth paying big dollars to anyway.
4. Regardess of what has happened, our future is looking up with SOS driving our policies in similar fashion to last year.
last but most importantly:
5. As abysmal as our decision making has proven to be, nothing has/or ever will hurt us as much as the decisions that the Collins administration made on the back of the poor decisions made by Elliott which has brought our club to the position its in today. We may have navagated out of our current mess much earlier with some better administration, but nothing compares to what happend back in 2004. The decision to cut ties with Brittain was just one poor decision in a long line of other poor decisions, but the breaches and penalties have rendered us a basket case beyond anything else we have or ever will experience ever again.
Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.