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Re: Power forward? - laj - 02-29-2016
(02-28-2016, 11:22 PM)Brettie link Wrote:Could not possibly summarise that any better Phantom coloured Blue......our forward line is an unmitigated mess, non-existent & there's not another team in the AFL who can even come close to 'boasting' the forward structure we've got.
Casboult ran himself into the ground in the first 10 mins of the game yesterday & I said to my mate "That'll be it for today, he'll be too buggered for the rest of it".......and that's exactly what eventuated for the half he played.
*sigh*.......
Casboult did have a late start to the pre-season and they are managing his workload.
Re: Power forward? - laj - 02-29-2016
(02-28-2016, 11:20 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Temptation is to play Harry McKay in the next NAB game with the view of playing him Rnd 1......thats probably on the basis that Jones, Gorringe or any other fill ins have shown nothing.....
Do we want to give Harry plenty of early experience or will it just knock him about.?...I reckon BB wont want to play him and will go one of his ruckman at CHF with Casboult at FF.....Gorringe is probably the player we would play at CHF IMO and wil also have a run on the ball with Casboult doing less ruckwork and staying at FF.
Dont see who ever we play at CHF expected to kick many goals but whose job will more to provide a marking contest and get the ball down to the smaller/mid sized players...
Jaksch been injured as we haven't seen him in either game? I'd prefer moving him into a key forward post and developing him there. With the lower interchange numbers I'd like Casboult to do some ruck with Kreuzer. Don't really want two ruckmen on the ground, as none of them can rest forward, hence that's where Casboult is handy. We have too many ruckman. Kreuzer, Wood, Phillips would've been enough with help from Caboult. Wood's better than both Phillips and Gorringe. Didn't need the latter.
Re: Power forward? - ItsOurTime - 02-29-2016
You need 2 on slow burn. That's why the extras are there, otherwise you end up paying a 30+ year old ruck over a million per year like freo.
Re: Power forward? - cookie2 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 03:46 AM)laj link Wrote:Jaksch been injured as we haven't seen him in either game? I'd prefer moving him into a key forward post and developing him there. With the lower interchange numbers I'd like Casboult to do some ruck with Kreuzer. Don't really want two ruckmen on the ground, as none of them can rest forward, hence that's where Casboult is handy. We have too many ruckman. Kreuzer, Wood, Phillips would've been enough with help from Caboult. Wood's better than both Phillips and Gorringe. Didn't need the latter.
Agree - the new interchange rule pretty much mandates a Ruck plus a Forward/Ruck. I think the club has another role in mind for Gorringe at least besides being a ruckman. Not sure he'll be any good for anything though at this stage.
Re: Power forward? - DJC - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 01:49 AM)LP link Wrote:McKay will be in the F50 for the next decade if we can keep hold of him. He showed more in a few chaotic minutes than most of our forwards have shown since Fev left!
Not sure SOSOS will make it unless they can work on his pace, and Cripps has proven that can be changed. SOSOS looked slowish, but I concede that can also be a result of slow decision making. Point of contrast, Weitering is not super fast but never looked slow and he already has an AFL body. But skinny kids who look slow are really starting behind the eight ball, because they need bulk which is almost anathema to adding pace.
Jack was involved in a few passages of play just in front of me in the last quarter and he gave the impression of having plenty of time. He seems to one of those players with good balance, very good awareness and the ability to make good decisions. I wasn't convinced that he would make it but a footballer with time to execute in today's game has to do well.
Weitering coughed the ball before I had worked out who he was. I was quite surprised that such an accomplished looking player made such a clanger and then I realised it was his first game. Apart from that, he looked very much at home.
Re: Power forward? - shadesy - 02-29-2016
I thought this thread was about Charlie Dixon...
Our forwards dont lead.
There was a moment in second 1/4 yesterday Graham got a scrubby clearance (which is fine by the way) but there were 4 bombers camped underneath it.... 4. Not one Blues player. This was 5 seconds after a Centre Bounce?
Where did they go? What were they thinking? Surely 30m directly in Front is a place I would be starting as a Full Forward or CHF???
I wish i could get the footage to show...
Re: Power forward? - ElCapitan - 02-29-2016
I remember that moment shadesy and felt your frustration.
If you even have a half traditional forward set up to anticipate the quick clearance you can at worst break even in a 50/50 contest and have the ball sit in your forward 50.
Graham won a few clearances like this, kicked the ball in quickly given he had limited time and space but because everyone cleared out of the forward line, the ball just bounced right back.
My view is if you know that you will win more centre clearances than not, you need to keep forwards in the the 50 metre arc.
Geez the 2015 stats say that even though we were crap we were still 3rd in the comp for clearances.
Clearly we can get the ball, we just dont take advantage of it when we have it.
Re: Power forward? - cimm1979 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 04:57 AM)shadesy link Wrote:I thought this thread was about Charlie Dixon...
Our forwards dont lead.
There was a moment in second 1/4 yesterday Graham got a scrubby clearance (which is fine by the way) but there were 4 bombers camped underneath it.... 4. Not one Blues player. This was 5 seconds after a Centre Bounce?
Where did they go? What were they thinking? Surely 30m directly in Front is a place I would be starting as a Full Forward or CHF???
I wish i could get the footage to show...
Who knows.
Everitt seemed to be in the backline all day.
Footage is pointless unless we know what the objectives are. It looked to me as though we may have been focusing on our work out of defence as that's seemed our strongest group personnel wise.
In McKay's interview after the game he said his instructions were something like "just run around, have a bit of fun and see if you can get a kick"
Re: Power forward? - cookie2 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 04:57 AM)shadesy link Wrote:I thought this thread was about Charlie Dixon...
Our forwards dont lead.
There was a moment in second 1/4 yesterday Graham got a scrubby clearance (which is fine by the way) but there were 4 bombers camped underneath it.... 4. Not one Blues player. This was 5 seconds after a Centre Bounce?
Where did they go? What were they thinking? Surely 30m directly in Front is a place I would be starting as a Full Forward or CHF???
I wish i could get the footage to show...
Shadesy, but didn't the Bummers field 32 players in yesterday's game!
)Seriously I know what you're talking about, we remarked on it during the game.
Re: Power forward? - DJC - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 05:38 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Who knows.
Everitt seemed to be in the backline all day.
Footage is pointless unless we know what the objectives are. It looked to me as though we may have been focusing on our work out of defence as that's seemed our strongest group personnel wise.
In McKay's interview after the game he said his instructions were something like "just run around, have a bit of fun and see if you can get a kick"
That's what my coach used to say to me.