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Re: Culture - kruddler - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 08:27 AM)LP link Wrote:Hitler never fired a shot, but we don't have to defend him to talk about the war criminals!
MM did major damage, but the damage he did may not be repaired just by removing him.
Really, MM is hitler now?
MM did major damage. Fine.
Replacing the coach is all that is required according to some. I'm calling BS on that.
Our drafting/development has caused bigger issues at the club over 15 years than Mick has.
Players are leaving the club now. But Mick isn't the coach. Why are they leaving? They are not leaving Mick, they are leaving the club.
Look deeper into our issues than the head coach. It's not that hard.
It's taken Richmond decades to come to terms with that, and only now are they starting to see the benefits.
Re: Culture - LP - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 08:34 AM)kruddler link Wrote:It's taken Richmond decades to come to terms with that, and only now are they starting to see the benefits.
Yet the media report they are on the cliff edge of sacking Hardwick at the moment, reminds me of Ratten!
MM has gone Kruddler, let it go!
Re: Culture - Lods - 09-18-2015
I've got a feeling what we're seeing is players leaving players.
I think the playing group is fragmented.
The reasons for that may very well be coach related.(various coaches playing favourites over time)
But at the end of the day it's the responsibility of the club to ensure these divisions don't exist.
It's why it's a good thing that those that aren't happy are "on their bikes".
Time to start again from scratch with everyone on the same page.
Facilitate the moves for anyone that doesn't want to be there....otherwise you perpetuate the problem.
Don't fight to keep them...it's counter productive.
Re: Culture - LP - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:00 AM)Lods link Wrote:I've got a feeling what we're seeing is players leaving players.
I think the playing group is fragmented.
The reasons for that may very well be coach related.
But at the end of the day it's the responsibility of the club to ensure these divisions don't exist.
It's why it's a good thing that those that aren't happy are "on their bikes".
Time to start again from scratch with everyone on the same page.
Facilitate the moves for anyone that doesn't want to be there....otherwise you perpetuate the problem.
Don't fight to keep them...it's counter productive.
I think the club started by removing the cause of the cancer, now they are treating the remaining symptoms!
Maybe they have stopped playing/paying favorites.
Re: Culture - kruddler - 09-18-2015
Yarran was pro-malthouse.
Maybe he is showing his displeasure with the club for his sacking? He started going downhill at the same time.
Maybe Hendo too?
Bell??
All equally as plausible as Bolton will fix everything.
Re: Culture - PassIt2Carrots - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:05 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Yarran was pro-malthouse.
Have you an proof? All I've ever heard him credit any form or improvement to is Ratten and Barker. He certainly hasn't enjoyed his footy for the last three years. No more big flashy Yazz grin. That loss of happiness has coincided with one thing.
I remember watching the Carlton vs Collingwood replay from late in 2012 when we knocked them off as massive underdogs. Leigh Matthews comments still resonate to this day. 'Chris Yarran is up and running and all of a sudden Carlton look unstoppable'. That was where he was at under Ratts. I mean FFS has anyone even bothered to look at his highlights reels from that 2010-2012 era? The bloke was lethal. We saw none of that under Mick.
Re: Culture - kruddler - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:11 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Have you an proof? All I've ever heard him credit any form or improvement to is Ratten and Barker. He certainly hasn't enjoyed his footy for the last three years. No more big flashy Yazz grin. That loss of happiness has coincided with one thing.
I remember watching the Carlton vs Collingwood replay from late in 2012 when we knocked them off as massive underdogs. Leigh Matthews comments still resonate to this day. 'Chris Yarran is up and running and all of a sudden Carlton look unstoppable'. That was where he was at under Ratts. I mean FFS has anyone even bothered to look at his highlights reels from that 2010-2012 era? The bloke was lethal. We saw none of that under Mick.
Mate, i could get you a letter, hand written in Yarrans blood and you would still find a problem with it.
The reason you don't here him, or anyone else, give credit to Malthouse is because YOU don't hear it. You hear the name and you get your knockers in a twist. What did mick do to you anyway? Did he fingerbang your cat??
Re: Culture - LP - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:14 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Mate, i could get you a letter, hand written in Yarrans blood and you would still find a problem with it.
The reason you don't here him, or anyone else, give credit to Malthouse is because YOU don't hear it. You hear the name and you get your knockers in a twist. What did mick do to you anyway? Did he fingerbang your cat??
Why aren't you linking to a report quoting Yarran?
Most of us know what rumors are floating around and why Yarran has problems, and we know why we can't write it here!
Yet you chose to claim Yarran's malaise is due to MMs removal, why are you defending MM again?
Re: Culture - kruddler - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:18 AM)LP link Wrote:Why aren't you linking to a report quoting Yarran?
Most of us know what rumors are floating around and why Yarran has problems, and we know why we can't write it here!
Yet you chose to claim Yarran's malaise is due to MMs removal, why are you defending MM again?
Why are you refusing to acknowledge that truckloads of players are leaving the club? Do you not see that as a problem? I haven't heard you try and blame it on Mick....yet.
It is NOT defending Mick. It is pointing out that the rest of the club is in crisis. They are seperate issues, yet you can't fathom that is even possible!
Why is my claim more outrageous than Mick being responsible for Garlett ducking his head?
Re: Culture - LP - 09-18-2015
(09-18-2015, 09:23 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Why are you refusing to acknowledge that truckloads of players are leaving the club? Do you not see that as a problem? I haven't heard you try and blame it on Mick....yet.
It is NOT defending Mick. It is pointing out that the rest of the club is in crisis. They are seperate issues, yet you can't fathom that is even possible!
Why is my claim more outrageous than Mick being responsible for Garlett ducking his head?
Having heard Bolton on SEN today, his discussions about conversations with SOS and McKay. I'd say the club has never been more focused and stable! The Rats are leaving the ship!
You appear to be panicking!