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Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - northernblue - 05-30-2015
(05-30-2015, 12:42 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I think I was pretty clear Brettie. Those who boo give the opportunity for racists to boo, and there are plenty out there. Pretty sure one of our own made a pretty racist comment in the in-game thread. If there's one among 50 or so with us how many in a crowd of 40,000?
Why do you think he is booed?
I think he gets boo'd for the same reason you do carrots...
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2015
Hawthorn mate who was there at the Hawks vs Swans game says he gets booed because he stages for free kicks, is an umpires pet but isnt adverse to the odd sly hit or taking the legs of another player out...choice I know given Hodge/Lewis etc are right up there in terms of sly hits.
Said they also didnt like his work as Australian of the year and reckon he is a whinger.......
Thought our fans treated him ok and his warrior dance didnt bother me too much even though it worked up a few boneheads in the crowd, I'm sure it was in repsone to the Hawks booing even though he denies it....I know he has been on the racist end of some stuff but he hasnt got the same likeable persona of say a Michael Long who seems to be able to get his point across on a range of issues and get everyone onside...
Been a champion of the game and I hope he can win over the crowds and go out a winner off the field too.....bit of a smile everynow and then might help him...
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - PaulP - 05-30-2015
The issue of racism is a blight on humanity. It has existed since time immemorial, and will probably exist forever.
The issue of some dude on a footy field doing a dance is of no consequence at all.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-30-2015
(05-30-2015, 01:02 PM)PaulP link Wrote:The issue of racism is a blight on humanity. It has existed since time immemorial, and will probably exist forever.
The issue of some dude on a footy field doing a dance is of no consequence at all.
Nicky Winmar found it hard to cop and showed he was sensitive and I think the elements of the crowd pick up and feed on that, Goodes is similar to Winmar IMO...you look at Eddie Betts and how he engages the crowd, his big smiling face etc and its not an issue...
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - cookie2 - 05-30-2015
(05-30-2015, 01:02 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Hawthorn mate who was there at the Hawks vs Swans game says he gets booed because he stages for free kicks, is an umpires pet but isnt adverse to the odd sly hit or taking the legs of another player out...choice I know given Hodge/Lewis etc are right up there in terms of sly hits.
Said they also didnt like his work as Australian of the year and reckon he is a whinger.......
Thought our fans treated him ok and his warrior dance didnt bother me too much even though it worked up a few boneheads in the crowd, I'm sure it was in repsone to the Hawks booing even though he denies it....I know he has been on the racist end of some stuff but he hasnt got the same likeable persona of say a Michael Long who seems to be able to get his point across on a range of issues and get everyone onside...
Been a champion of the game and I hope he can win over the crowds and go out a winner off the field too.....bit of a smile everynow and then might help him...
Yep, I reckon Goodes' main issue with the crowds is that he comes across as a bit dour, seems aloof, and doesn't seem to connect with everyday people very well. I saw him once in a roadside servo/coffee shop in Tailem Bend of all places and he didn't seem that keen to say g'day to people. A "serious" type, personality-wise.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Mantis - 05-30-2015
I was called a fecking "wog" my entire life at school and was told by teachers to suck it up and move on. When your surname has half the letters of the English alphabet in it with hyphens and other symbols, you are way away from being a genuine Aussie. Even though you were born here. We better be careful we don't allow anti-racism take over. Where native people of this country we live in see us as being foreigners and make us the spot light of all racial issues. Why don't we have a multi-cultural week in footy? 90% of schools have a multi-cultural day at their schools. Where they dress in the old national clothing they were at the folk dances in their countries, and bring in foods from other cultures for all to try and taste. The kids love it and find it very interesting. The AFL wouldn't go for that idea because it would be considered a racist act against the native community of the country we currently live in. Racist divisions works both ways and in every way in this country. I thought we had too many cultures to see racism as an issue in the past. It appears now that if your not indigenous to this country you need to shut up because you will eventually be a racist.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - Brettie - 05-30-2015
(05-30-2015, 12:42 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I think I was pretty clear Brettie. Those who boo give the opportunity for racists to boo, and there are plenty out there. Pretty sure one of our own made a pretty racist comment in the in-game thread. If there's one among 50 or so with us how many in a crowd of 40,000?
Why do you think he is booed?
Clearly you weren't, but anyway. So why isn't Rioli booed, Yarran, Betts, Pearce, Hill, Martin, Bennell, Christensen, Varcoe, Garlett, etc., etc., etc???
Every game he plays away from Perth, Ballantyne gets booed - and the last time I checked he wasn't aboriginal, ditto Crowley. Everytime we play Collingwood, Judd gets booed. But when Goodes - the prancing, self-righteous, umpire-appealing tossbag gets booed, suddenly it's because so many of us are racists apparently. Personally, I've never booed him & unless he unduly flattens a Carlton player during a game I'm attending, I never will.....but I reckon it's drawing a very long bow to suggest that because he does get booed, it's giving any racists out there a 'free hit' in regards to simply booing him because of his colour......I simply do not and will not ever agree with that.
Give me a fecking break.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 05-30-2015
Sorry mate but none of those players get booed like Goodes, in fact no one else really gets booed do they?
If you think Australia isn't racist as a country you need to get out more. It's everywhere. I see it at work, at gym, in here, at the footy. Head up QLD way and people are awful, it's like they're stuck in the past. Don't pretend it doesn't exist, and that may be part of the problem with Goodes, he is booed for daring to point out that it still exists everywhere. I've seen many loudmouths (Aker), stagers (Selwood), goal celebrations (jail cuffs Goddard) and dirty players (Hodge) but none of these blokes get booed. I just don't get it someone point out to my why he gets booed?
You called him a prancing, self righteous tossbag but the AFL has been littered with these types for years, but none of them have been booed, so why Goodes? I see you used the term self righteous, are you annoyed with Goodes for daring to stand up against racism? Is this the main reason Goodes gets booed? For suggesting that racism is well and truly out there?
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 05-30-2015
(05-30-2015, 01:11 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yep, I reckon Goodes' main issue with the crowds is that he comes across as a bit dour, seems aloof, and doesn't seem to connect with everyday people very well. I saw him once in a roadside servo/coffee shop in Tailem Bend of all places and he didn't seem that keen to say g'day to people. A "serious" type, personality-wise.
Maybe he's just not that smart a bloke, it is possible you know. Not enough to deserve getting booed however.
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - PaulP - 05-30-2015
I think Goodes can definitely come across as haughty, and a little self serving as well. He has the eyes and ears of the Australian public, as much as any Indigenous male. He is clearly a man on a mission. I think his motivations are genuine.
As for the on field stuff. he will try and get away with as much as the umps will allow, just like any other player. It's up to the umps to put a stamp on it, not Goodes.