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Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - LP - 05-10-2015
I said a week ago Martin was the AFLs in-form ruckmen and would rip us a new one, and he did!
We have the dumbest MC / Coaching panel in the AFL, blind Freddy could have seen this coming!
Supporters should excuse one or two bad decisions or or two wrong turns, but not excuse things when the majority are bad!
From the outside it looks like we want a nice club, a friendly club, a club full of buddies, but a winning club doesn't necessarily coincide with those desires!
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-10-2015
@iaj...Jim...Levi was good and his kicking action looked a bit better...no doubt he needs to play each week as the 2nd ruck/forward as we have both suggested..
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 11:56 AM)LP link Wrote:I said a week ago Martin was the AFLs in-form ruckmen and would rip us a new one, and he did!
We have the dumbest MC / Coaching panel in the AFL, blind Freddy could have seen this coming!
Supporters should excuse one or two bad decisions or or two wrong turns, but not excuse things when the majority are bad!
From the outside it looks like we want a nice club, a friendly club, a club full of buddies, but a winning club doesn't necessarily coincide with those desires!
Wood was ordinary, Casboult did a good job on the ball and up forward, which is a tough gig.
We won the clearances again though. We win that every week, won the contested possession, 1%'ers again. Although good but totally amounts to nothing when when you badly structured and have no run.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - dodge - 05-10-2015
My sympathies to those who went to watch today. What a very ordinary game of footy.
Zero confidence within the 'team' at the moment. Nothing intuitive going on. Is there a stat on hail Mary kicks? We have to be #1 with them and #1 again for how many go straight to the opposition.
For those who backed the blues into $1.28 - no sympathy at all, although you are obviously optimistic.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 12:01 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:@iaj...Jim...Levi was good and his kicking action looked a bit better...no doubt he needs to play each week as the 2nd ruck/forward as we have both suggested..
Exactly. Like him playing CHF and rucking as it allows him to move about up the ground and run. That suits him even if it's a tough gig. Also notice he has a fair roost on him when he lets go.
Kicking 4 goals the way we played with that forward structure would be like kicking 8 any other time.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - shadesy - 05-10-2015
It's no longer about the stoppages and clearances anymore. It's about creating pressure on the stoppages and launching quick from half back.
Yet we are playing 2010 football, where contested ball was king and two taggers was the norm.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 12:14 PM)shadesy link Wrote:It's no longer about the stoppages and clearances anymore. It's about creating pressure on the stoppages and launching quick from half back.
Yet we are playing 2010 football, where contested ball was king and two taggers was the norm.
That launching isn't quite coming to fruition. When we do launch we find not a soul in the 50 to kick to so we have to stop. I saw that a few times.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - LP - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 12:08 PM)laj link Wrote:Wood was ordinary, Casboult did a good job on the ball and up forward, which is a tough gig.
We won the clearances again though. We win that every week, won the contested possession, 1%'ers again. Although good but totally amounts to nothing when when you badly structured and have no run.
I have been saying this about the Warnock situation for the last five years, players who are traffic cones combined with an outdated game plan are worthless in 2015. Yet already some fans want Warnock back next week, they can't see the forest for the trees! Do they wonder why Martin was the Lions top rated player, because those stats he gathers count more than taps which from an effectiveness perspective he lost! But he gets 19 disposals and 5 marks, if we combined Wood and Casboult they just break even with him!
Better to lose the clearances and win everywhere else, Kreuzer and Hampson were our number 1 ruck combo for 1 very good reason, mobility. Kreuzer and Hampson use to rove to each other inside F50, both kicked goals roving to the others ruck work. We didn't need marking or goal kicking from rucks just getting a contest was enough. So we took a great ruck division and de-constructed it because they were NBG as KPFs, hunging onto and recruiting a bunch of dud forwards by weakening our ruck division.
And people seriously think Warnock is a solution with Casboult rucking, really?
The sad thing is three or four years ago we were winning clearances and competitive(admittedly inconsistently) everywhere else.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - shadesy - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 12:21 PM)laj link Wrote:That launching isn't quite coming to fruition. When we do launch we find not a soul in the 50 to kick to so we have to stop. I saw that a few times.
And then get cut up going the other way... I wonder who's fault that could be?
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - crashlander - 05-10-2015
I look at the stats and I can't see how we lost. We had the better players for most of the game. We took out their better players, especially guys like Rockliff who have hurt us before.
Green kicks 3 goals with about 4 kicks. McStay kicks 4 and could have had more: we didn't defend the goal line well at all.
We need to start showing some heart. Badly.