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Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 01:19 AM)Lods link Wrote:Yep...two games into 2015
It was a...
a) Time buying exercise to deflect criticism.
b) A move designed to force out the coach who didn't want a bar of a rebuild
c) Both of the above.
The effect was it killed the season 2015 as all efforts went into setting up for the start of the rebuild. Players were left uncertain about their future and the coach's future.
Now six years later we've had another 'time-buying exercise' that derailed a season and left the club (looking from the outside) in a bit of a mess.
Six years of rebuild...and this!
And folks say we should be patient. :
Unfortunately, every significant change, be it senior coach, CEO, list, sets the clock back a little further, as each new person or regime remakes the club (or their part of the club) in their own image.
Whether supporters are aggrieved or not, success looks ages away at the moment. If Clarkson or Lyon come in, they will want to tinker, and that takes more time than just sticking with Teague and helping him to iron out the kinks IMO. Although with everything that's happened in the last 24/48 hours, I suspect it's too late for Teague, and if he does coach in 2022, it will be in pretty trying circumstances.
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 01:19 AM)Lods date Wrote:Six years of rebuild...and this!Yet, I can't help but think we're again throwing out the treasure and keeping the crap!
And folks say we should be patient. :
Re: Football Department Review - Lods - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 01:43 AM)LP link Wrote:Yet, I can't help but think we're again throwing out the treasure and keeping the crap!
Quite possibly
I'm not sure how you determine that though, when the guys making the decisions have bought us to this point.
The review might have been ill-timed.
It may have had some pre-determined findings (things that were already known)
But the review is the best we have.
I wonder whether we'll ever reach the point where a group of competent ,qualified, passionate supporters put their heads together and ask the members to give them a go at running the place.
Re: Football Department Review - Professer E - 08-24-2021
They'll never get a look in thanks to the "nominations committee". ie you have to be a mate of the inner circle or you've got Buckley's.
Re: Football Department Review - raven19 - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 12:58 AM)Lods link Wrote:That's about it...
In 2014 we finished 13th ( an injury hit season)
Two games into 2015 they announced a review and derailed the 2015 season
In 2021 we finished 13th (an injury hit season)
Worst rebuild ever. :
We're only 20odd years into our 50 year rebuild though...
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 01:59 AM)Lods date Wrote:I wonder whether we'll ever reach the point where a group of competent ,qualified, passionate supporters put their heads together and ask the members to give them a go at running the place.This is where money corrupts, our addiction to the money tree leaves us a victim of the generous benefactor.
It's ironic, they all desire the same thing, they want the club to win, yet the people handing the money out are nearly always the main reason for it being wasted and ultimately scuppering that very process they support financially!
We really miss Dick Pratt, because he played at a level that gave him a unique understanding, he knew when to tell the accountants and executives to get out of the pool and let the people get to work!
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021
In one of the threads [member=160]Gointocarlton[/member] posed a question about what would we do if we were on the Board.
I joked about arrogance, but I'd do one thing very seriously, I'd partition Football and Commercial.
There would be an impenetrable barrier, and the only magic way to cross it would be to announce yourself, announce what you intend to do and why, and force adherence to those declarations, so that all anonymity in decision making is removed the moment you choose to cross that barrier in either direction. Forced responsibility through complete transparency and accountability.
Re: Football Department Review - Lods - 08-24-2021
Barass70 on Bigfooty has come in from his self isolation with the message that 'only a handful will survive.' and 'It's happening and more'
Re-Liddle-Good chance out
That place has gone a bit feral.
Soon find out if he's a really good ITK
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021
People can be paranoid, they think someone announcing an event that was secret or private indicates a leak, it is not always the case.
Sometimes to work out what is going on you just have to be far enough away from the events to see the whole picture, you get to see the forest whiles those in the middle of it can only see a few trees!
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021
If Cripps stays we need serious pace around him, and not skinnies. Kennedy, Walsh, Ed are strong enough but too slow.
Dow is OK but struggles to hit a barn by foot, Williams is still possibly a key if they can get him fit enough.
A couple of our kids floating around the VFL look good enough, but are probably at least a season or two away.