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Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-23-2021

What we are seeing at the moment is the battle between the old Carlton and the new Carlton, which will win?

Unfortunately, I see this divide in the playing list as well, and I suspect people like Teague and Bolton before him are just collateral damage caused by the wheels of change and the death throws of the old ways.

Oddly, I first got a whiff of this back when Harf was called in to replace Daniel Keeping in the AFLW.

Personally, even if the old Carlton wins, it is on borrowed time, so despite the eagerness of some to see the return of the "SOS Faction", I call it that for lack of a better name, perhaps it is better if it doesn't win now and the "Liddle Faction" cements it's place. However I qualify that with the idea the Board needs to reign in the "Liddle Faction" and keep it operating in it's play pen. Does the Board have the cohunes?


Re: Football Department Review - tonyo - 08-23-2021

The noise coming from the media is about their need for a quick kill.  And, of course, they all have their inside sources with any number of 'whispers'.

If (and it's a big if) the Board is actually trying to digest the review findings to make the best decisions, then so be it.  There are many assumptions on this site about the internal politics and who is doing what.  What is certain is the need to identify where improvements are needed, and how to achieve that.

This is not the time for knee-jerk reactions to suit the press.  All the noise about Teague's demise is coming from the Media and Liam Pickering.  DT is only human, and when pushed by the media about his fate, what else could he say but 'it doesn't look good'.

Clearly, the Board needed to talk to Clarkson and Lyon or be accused of not pursuing every possible option.





Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-23-2021

The media point the knives at individual targets, but they may not be the right target.

For all that we debate, we do not know who is making the calls on players and coaches, we as fans assume it's the cockroach or MC making decisions who to play and who to pay, but it could well be the Executive.

"There's a rotten apple Jim, and we have to find it."




Re: Football Department Review - cookie2 - 08-23-2021

The events of recent days may have turned over some rocks that the review was not aware of.


Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-23-2021

(08-23-2021, 11:51 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:The events of recent days may have turned over some rocks that the review was not aware of.
Well, from our perspective, but not necessarily oblivious to the insiders, just not spoken about openly.
 


Re: Football Department Review - cookie2 - 08-23-2021

(08-23-2021, 11:54 PM)LP link Wrote:Well, from our perspective, but not necessarily oblivious to the insiders, just not spoken about openly.

We can't be sure all interviewees would have been open and forthright in the review. Many probably would have gone into survival mode.


Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021

(08-23-2021, 11:58 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:We can't be sure all interviewees would have been open and forthright in the review. Many probably would have gone into survival mode.
This is potentially where those rumoured canary traps come into play.

You can't assume everyone gets asked the same questions, I bet Walsh is A-Grade at cutting through this rubbish! Wink

If nothing else, it exposes who is telling you porky pies, even if it doesn't reveal the truth it can still reveal character!


Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021

There were rumours going back years that Bolton bought it for the sake of Cripps mental health.

In doing that did we teach Pavlov's Dog a new involuntary trick, a way of dealing with stress that has a negative outcome for remainder of the club?


Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021

Fans are all about Pickering on Teague, but they ignore that Pickering is Weitering's uncle! :o

Be careful what you wish for, manage this very very carefully!


Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-24-2021

Here is my wash up, based on the surfacing rumours there are some irrevocable conclusions even if only a small small percentage of it is true;

- Teague can't be coach.
- Cripps and Doc can't be captains.
- Liddle has been asleep at the wheel.
- Brad Lloyd is gone.
- Some big name players will be lost.