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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - LP - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 12:54 AM)crashlander date Wrote:This test will probably be remembered for what happened to Bairstow, but it really shouldn't.I've heard on radio there is already footage circulating of Bairstow trying the very same thing be it unsuccessfully, but of course there is, Carey's actions are a pure keepers dismissal, a stumping, was always a stumping, and will always be a stumping! The fact Carey hit the stumps from 15m back makes little or no difference, you don't have to stand at the stumps to make a stumping.
The Poms should be careful of what they ask for!
PS; Apparently Bairstow tried the very same thing earlier in the test, of course he did it's a stumping!
Our 2nd Innings, Australia 79-1, Bairstow tries to stump Labuschagne off Anderson's bowling.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Micky0 - 07-03-2023
Thoughts on the ‘spirit of the game’ commentary coming from the English team and coach?
Personally find that laughable, considering how they have played the game.
If I were an England supporter I’d be embarrassed by the behaviour of the team, the crying foul by the team now, the crown behaviour and in particular the members’ behaviour.
They said we should’ve withdrawn our appeal.
Did they not see that brilliant catch by Starc, that was deemed not so by the third umpire. When clearly - in the spirit of the game - that was a catch! They should’ve overturned the third umpires call then.
Poor sportsmanship by them and I have no sympathy at all.
Had they said fair enough Bairstow should and does know better, the Aussies just stayed switched on more than we did - I would respect them.
As for the members’ behaviour, completely embarrassing and makes you think that privilege of standing in that area in such close proximity to the teams, should be revoked! Not often I’m leaving my workplace for lunch and getting abused by people on my way out!!!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - rocky - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 02:24 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Thoughts on the ‘spirit of the game’ commentary coming from the English team and coach?Spot on Micky. F em sideways
Personally find that laughable, considering how they have played the game.
If I were an England supporter I’d be embarrassed by the behaviour of the team, the crying foul by the team now, the crown behaviour and in particular the members’ behaviour.
They said we should’ve withdrawn our appeal.
Did they not see that brilliant catch by Starc, that was deemed not so by the third umpire. When clearly - in the spirit of the game - that was a catch! They should’ve overturned the third umpires call then.
Poor sportsmanship by them and I have no sympathy at all.
Had they said fair enough Bairstow should and does know better, the Aussies just stayed switched on more than we did - I would respect them.
As for the members’ behaviour, completely embarrassing and makes you think that privilege of standing in that area in such close proximity to the teams, should be revoked! Not often I’m leaving my workplace for lunch and getting abused by people on my way out!!!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - dodge - 07-03-2023
https://7news.com.au/sport/cricket/england-hypocrisy-revealed-as-telling-angle-on-alex-careys-stumping-of-jonny-bairstow-shows-full-story-c-11158873
Yes, Bairstow tried it on Marnus. Brendan got Murali. If a keeper can't do that, then stumpings are gone. Carey let go of the ball the moment he got it - he didn't wait for Bairstow to go out of his crease.
The more I see Starc's catch, the more I kind of get why it wasn't given out.
Whingeing sore losers (like the previous test that they felt they won.). I haven't always liked the Australian test sides, but this English one is revolting.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-03-2023
I get Bairstow was out but I agree with Brad Hogg that it's not a good look and I wouldn't have done what Carey did without warning the batsman first in a Mankad fashion.
Bairstow wasn't attempting a run and had remarked his guard and yep he was out officially but now it's just going to open the doors for all teams to try that stuff on and like the bouncer war it was us initiating it then the English going overboard and now they will be desperate to Mankad/Carey our blokes back and it just makes for poor unattractive cricket. It could have cost us the game too as Stokes and Broad really hardened their resolve and involved the crowd. I reckon if Carey had his time over he would have done it differently.
The Starc catch was a poor 3rd umpiring decision, Duckett had walked off .
That law about the ball in the ground when landing needs changing, it was a clean catch and he was only supporting his body landing on the ground.
Right result though in this game and makes for a fiery 3rd test.....
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - dodge - 07-03-2023
EB1 - so do you think that Bairstow would have given Marnus a warning had he hit the stumps and was out of his crease? (moot point as it didn't happen). Or that was a bad look for the game? Carey let go of the ball before Bairstow had left his crease - he didn't wait for him to leave and then trhow it.
My concern is that in park cricket this is tried 10 times on a Saturday afternoon. Haven't seen it work yet. This will only encourage the keepers and that will double to 20 times!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 04:53 AM)dodge link Wrote:EB1 - so do you think that Bairstow would have given Marnus a warning had he hit the stumps and was out of his crease? (moot point as it didn't happen). Or that was a bad look for the game? Carey let go of the ball before Bairstow had left his crease - he didn't wait for him to leave and then trhow it.Dodge, No ..Bairstow is a bit of a dick and I'm not a real fan of his demeanour and McCullum has done stuff similar in the past trying to get batsmen out. I just want us to be better than the English and be seen as sporting and keeping within the spirit of the game.
My concern is that in park cricket this is tried 10 times on a Saturday afternoon. Haven't seen it work yet. This will only encourage the keepers and that will double to 20 times!
No need to sink to their level ....I have no problem with Carey warning then stumping a batsman who continues to offend or any of our bowlers Mankadding a batsman who keeps trying to steal ground when the bowler approaches the crease after they have been warned. Starc has done this in the past and it was all fair imo ..
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - dodge - 07-03-2023
I think we have differing views on this one, EB!
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-03-2023
(07-03-2023, 05:39 AM)dodge link Wrote:I think we have differing views on this one, EB!Thats what makes its a great game Dodge......
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Gointocarlton - 07-03-2023
Spirit of the game? Turn it up. As old mate Chop Chop once said, "whinge farken whinge", the English keeper and Coach have very short and selected memories it seems. No one from the mother land was prepared to talk spirit of the game trumping rules when that disgraceful decision was given against Starc. Cop your medicine and suck it up.