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Re: Football Department Review - Lods - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hypothetical, tonight after the game win, lose or draw, the board resigns en masse and are replaced by me, LP, Baggers, Pauly, laj, Krudd, Micky0, Proff, Fly, Thry and Cap (forget the numbers for a minute), what's our first job tomorrow morning?
Go.
Secure the newspapers and television.
Re: Football Department Review - cookie2 - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hypothetical, tonight after the game win, lose or draw, the board resigns en masse and are replaced by me, LP, Baggers, Pauly, laj, Krudd, Micky0, Proff, Fly, Thry and Cap (forget the numbers for a minute), what's our first job tomorrow morning?
Go.
Brace yourselves for the cr@p you’re gonna cop from the remaining members on this site! ?
Re: Football Department Review - capcom - 08-21-2021
Chart a course to turn around the SS Carlton in a calm but very deliberate manner. Identify what must be done and instruct all that the standards we set for ourselves, we also expect from the playing group. Professional. And take the blame when necessary ... always. Complete buy in is critical.
Set us apart from the rest and respect our rich history
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hypothetical, tonight after the game win, lose or draw, the board resigns en masse and are replaced by me, LP, Baggers, Pauly, laj, Krudd, Micky0, Proff, Fly, Thry and Cap (forget the numbers for a minute), what's our first job tomorrow morning?
Go.
Ring the Pratts and Mathiesons and Elliotts and other equivalents and tell them that their days of meddling and causing factions and instability are over.
Re: Football Department Review - LoveNavy - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hypothetical, tonight after the game win, lose or draw, the board resigns en masse and are replaced by me, LP, Baggers, Pauly, laj, Krudd, Micky0, Proff, Fly, Thry and Cap (forget the numbers for a minute), what's our first job tomorrow morning?
Go.
Review the "Review Report".
Bring the panel members in to address any concerns.
Identify any remaining concerns that may have preceded the review, such as the validity of the Terms of Reference.
Bring the ex-board members in to address any concerns.
Provide members with the findings (and by default, the public).
With all cards on the table, make the appropriate decisions in the best intetests of CFC.
Re: Football Department Review - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Hypothetical, tonight after the game win, lose or draw, the board resigns en masse and are replaced by me, LP, Baggers, Pauly, laj, Krudd, Micky0, Proff, Fly, Thry and Cap (forget the numbers for a minute), what's our first job tomorrow morning?Make the Pies free at all home games......
Go.
Re: Football Department Review - Lods - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 08:28 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Ring the Pratts and Mathiesons and Elliotts and other equivalents and tell them that their days of meddling and causing factions and instability are over.
Well that board didn't last long. ;D
Here's the issue (and for a lot of us it's a key ongoing one)
The board don't tell the influencers and meddlers what to do...it's the other way around.
It's easy to say "get rid of the wealthy supporters and families who have controlled and influenced our club for years"
It's much more difficult to act on that wish.
How do you do that?
Is there a willingness in enough numbers to make it happen.?
I'm afraid I can't see it.
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 09:32 PM)Lods link Wrote:Well that board didn't last long. ;D
Here's the issue (and for a lot of us it's a key ongoing one)
The board don't tell the influencers and meddlers what to do...it's the other way around.
It's easy to say "get rid of the wealthy supporters and families who have controlled and influenced our club for years"
It's much more difficult to act on that wish.
How do you do that?
Is there a willingness in enough numbers to make it happen.?
I'm afraid I can't see it.
I appreciate all that Lods. But it's a hypothetical posed by GTC, which usually ends up as a wish list more than anything. The amount of effort, networking, support, manoeuvring etc. that would be required to get rid of those types would be significant. You would then spend the rest of your time on guard because those types will surely not take such an ousting lying down. But IMO, there's little point in fixing the footy department if those external power brokers are still calling the shots, and can make or break careers, derail seasons etc., on what appears to me to be a mere whim.
Malthouse told the story that within seconds of getting the Carlton gig, the Mermaid Beach Mathieson called him to offer congratulations. Towards the end of MM's tenure, "MBM" wasn't even returning Mick's calls. Says it all IMO.
Re: Football Department Review - Lods - 08-21-2021
(08-21-2021, 09:58 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I appreciate all that Lods. But it's a hypothetical posed by GTC, which usually ends up as a wish list more than anything. The amount of effort, networking, support, manoeuvring etc. that would be required to get rid of those types would be significant. You would then spend the rest of your time on guard because those types will surely not take such an ousting lying down. But IMO, there's little point in fixing the footy department if those external power brokers are still calling the shots, and can make or break careers, derail seasons etc., on what appears to me to be a mere whim.
Malthouse told the story that within seconds of getting the Carlton gig, the Mermaid Beach Mathieson called him to offer congratulations. Towards the end of MM's tenure, "MBM" wasn't even returning Mick's calls. Says it all IMO.
Hypothetical or not, it is an ongoing issue that many decisions are heavily influenced by the power brokers.
Why would MM be trying to call Mathieson?
Probably because he thought he might be able to overturn some board decision that Mick didn't agree with.
Re: Football Department Review - Gointocarlton - 08-21-2021
I stuffed the hypothetical in that I was supposed to say "assume no footy dept review had been done".
Krudd
First job?
Offer Eddie a contract for 1 more year. ;D
Realistically, go to David Teague and ask him what he needs to win a flag and get it for him. Be that assistants, fitness staff, players....whatever. Everything else is secondary.
laj - They have a drink cabinet in the Board Room?…lol.
Lods Secure the newspapers and television.
Cookie Brace yourselves for the cr@p you’re gonna cop from the remaining members on this site! ?
Capcom Chart a course to turn around the SS Carlton in a calm but very deliberate manner. Identify what must be done and instruct all that the standards we set for ourselves, we also expect from the playing group. Professional. And take the blame when necessary ... always. Complete buy in is critical.
Set us apart from the rest and respect our rich history
Pauly Ring the Pratts and Mathiesons and Elliotts and other equivalents and tell them that their days of meddling and causing factions and instability are over.
LoveNavy Review the "Review Report".
Bring the panel members in to address any concerns.
Identify any remaining concerns that may have preceded the review, such as the validity of the Terms of Reference.
Bring the ex-board members in to address any concerns.
Provide members with the findings (and by default, the public).
With all cards on the table, make the appropriate decisions in the best intetests of CFC.
EB Make the Pies free at all home games……
Couple of things:
Pauly - In my view, the factions and influences from the Pratts and Mathiesons are gone because none of their tentacles are on our board. That was the point of the hypothetical of placing us (new, non influenced members) onto the board.
Krudd - Task 1 for you is to give Teague what he wants/needs and assume he is the right man for the job. You've come in cold and you're not even going to ask questions of our footy dept?
LoveNavy - Closest to the pin in my view given the scenerio I presented.
Capcoms is the second job IMO
Assuming a review of the footy dept hadn't been done and given the finances are in check, wouldn't the first thing we would do do is either start or commission a review of the footy dept? The dysfunctional board is gone, that only leaves looking into what the real purpose of the club is, playing games of football.