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Re: General Discussions - LP - 07-27-2022
As many of us get old we can become a bit grumpy, a bit cantankerous, it can be masked by a mellow indifference, but we have to learn to manage our newly found intolerance towards others.
Seeing Rex lose the plot yesterday, and reading about Jay Schultz self-control issues today, has it become too convenient, a bit of an excuse even, to blame all sorts of invalid anti-social behaviour on the head knocks of the past? Am I being too harsh?
Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-27-2022
I think the players have a right to choose not to wear the jersey if it conflicts with their religious beliefs etc, same as if a player didnt want to wear a jersey that had gambling sponsorship because he disagreed with gambling sponsorship in sport or alcohol/tobacco sponsorship.. I wouldnt have a problem wearing the jersey as its just a footy jersey at the end of the day not a religious ornament but I would understand devout Christians, Muslims etc would and for me its a personal choice everyone has to make for themselves and they have a right to refuse to wear it just as other players have a right to wear it.
Re: General Discussions - cookie2 - 07-27-2022
Wonder what the contractual position might be re what clubs can display on jerseys without consulting players?
Re: General Discussions - PaulP - 07-27-2022
If you take the standard Protestant Bible, it has about 31000 verses. There are 6 or 7 verses out of 31000 (the so called Clobber passages), that seem to discuss aspects of same sex behavior (these verses are almost always misinterpreted) That gives you some idea of how concerned the Biblical writers were about such behavior. You will find way more references and condemnation of other behaviors, and yet these seem to be of no interest to Christians, and certainly don't appear to be part of any modern ethical discussions, at least that I'm aware of. Biblical scholarship has advanced significantly in the last 100 years. Whoever is leading these players and telling them what to think is a disgrace.
If you make a claim that the "Bible is very authoritative to us", then you can't just pick and choose. Either every one of its edicts needs to be followed, or else it needs to be read in a different way. If you choose the former :
a. those players and their pastor don't have a leg to stand on, and
b. none of us would be alive.
And beliefs have real world consequences. They're not ideas that just exist in your mind.
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 07-27-2022
(07-27-2022, 05:42 AM)LP link Wrote:Ian Roberts would also concede the minority perspective as he well knows he is in that minority, oddly here in Oz the 7 are in a minority as well yet our society now judges their minority belief as invalid, and that seems rather arbitrary like we have picked a side!Great points LP, how do we live together respectful of one another? Thats the question.
I didn't hear anybody wish harm on another, why are we so determine to force an opinion?
Can't we just leave them be, or must we beat the belief out of them, like a Missionary beating the heathen horde?
There is something fundamentally misplaced here, to all the world it looks like two wrongs .................................
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 07-27-2022
Bravo on the false equivalence. Pacific Islanders are hostile to gays and condemn them as evil sinners. Gays aren’t hostile to Pacific Islanders (save perhaps when they’re being attacked by them). Calling on both groups to be tolerant of the other is bizarre.
Re: General Discussions - Gointocarlton - 07-27-2022
(07-27-2022, 10:43 AM)Mav link Wrote:Bravo on the false equivalence. Pacific Islanders are hostile to gays and condemn them as evil sinners. Gays aren’t hostile to Pacific Islanders (save perhaps when they’re being attacked by them). Calling on both groups to be tolerant of the other is bizarre.Hostile, FMD!
Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 07-27-2022
I was asked if I wanted to wear a rainbow pin at work once.
I declined.
Not because I dont support gay rights (I dont support all of them equally and that is one of my gripes with it).
I also don't like the mentality of you are either with or against them.
I demand the right to live and let live without celebrating it. I dont want to, I dont have to. Why do I have to?
Re: General Discussions - Lods - 07-27-2022
You know...the irony of this whole debacle is that there will eventually come a time when we don't feel the need for 'pride' rounds and 'pride' jumpers.
That's what equality and acceptance really looks like.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 07-27-2022
Let’s keep an eye on suicide rates as that’ll give us a bit of a heads-up that acceptance is at hand.