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Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-30-2023
(07-30-2023, 09:32 AM)DJC link Wrote:I think that Steele must have misplaced his cloak of invisibility. Not once did he appear out of nowhere to accept a pass inside 50 ?Weitering was back to his best and I think he enjoyed the Collingwood setup with a taller more traditional forward line. To me its interesting how McStay has given Collingwood a different look and with Mihocek as well as Cox they looked slower and top heavy. I thought when they had the kid Johnson and Mihocek only in the first half of the season they looked more mobile and dangerous.
If nothing else, Friday’s performance shows that our coaches and playing group have learnt from past experiences.
Collingwood’s not a great stoppage team and I was expecting us to be on top there. I was hoping that we could stop their run out of defence and I couldn’t be happier with how that panned out. We made the most out of our forward 50 entries and worked hard to keep the ball in our half. The wall we built across the centre of the G was formidable and Weiters and his crew mopped up anything that got past.
That same four quarter effort will be very hard to beat, regardless of the opposition, and that’s the challenge for Vossy and our leadership group.
Dare I say it, but we’re becoming just a little intimidating, both in terms of football ability and our attack on the aggott and the sucker who has possession.
Our Achilles’ heel is the bare cupboard that is our VFL team.
Likewise losing Harry to injury has given us a different look and Charlie is playing like a man possessed being the only specialist tall forward and our whole forward line has taken on a more dynamic look with less bombing the ball and more movement.
Im not saying we are better off without Harry overall but losing him has forced us to play different and look for other players ie Martin, Motlop etc and the Pies gaining McStay has made them different and I think we have a clear winner and its not Collingwood.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - RiverRat - 07-30-2023
(07-30-2023, 06:25 AM)DJC link Wrote:The point is that there's no logic or consistency to the way ruck infringements are adjudicated. If the two frees against De Koning were correct, at least ten other similar frees should have been paid. I don't know if there's much communication between the AFL and clubs about what constitutes a ruck infringement, but there should be more. It would be interesting to hear what the AFL/umpires think De Koning should have done when the ball bounced towards his side of the circle :-\
A good starting point would be to stop the umpire who bounces the ball from awarding free kicks for ruck interference at centre bounces. That umpire is so focused on the bounce and backing away from the contest that he/she does not have a good perspective to make such decisions.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 07-31-2023
(07-30-2023, 03:16 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:A good starting point would be to stop the umpire who bounces the ball from awarding free kicks for ruck interference at centre bounces. That umpire is so focused on the bounce and backing away from the contest that he/she does not have a good perspective to make such decisions.
Too logical for the AFL RR?
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 07-31-2023
Weird coaches votes this week, usually they are in pretty close accord but not this week, could be any of a few variants including;
9 - Charlie ( 5-4 )
7 - Newman ( 4-3 )
5 - Weitering ( 5 )
4 - Martin ( 2-2 )
3 - Cameron ( 3 )
2 - Cripps ( 1-1 )
or
9 - Charlie ( 5-4 )
7 - Newman ( 5-2 )
5 - Weitering ( 3 -2 )
4 - Martin ( 4 )
3 - Cameron ( 3 )
2 - Cripps ( 1-1 )
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Blue Moon - 07-31-2023
This is the sort of game we have stuffed up in the past. The team has worked damn hard to get to the position where it's destiny is in there own hands and while we now probably only need to win two of the next four to make the finals, this sort of thinking is dangerous and could lead to complacency and thinking we can win another down the track if we don't win this one. Our mindset should be to win the next four in a row and then win another four after that.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-31-2023
I thought Cripps' game was worth more than 2 votes.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 07-31-2023
Cerra was probably BOG at half time.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 07-31-2023
(07-31-2023, 06:49 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Cerra was probably BOG at half time.
Cerra did in 40% game time what Cripps did in 82% game time.
Definitely worthy of votes.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 07-31-2023
Not too much wrong with the coaches votes in the order, perhaps Martin or Cameron 1 or 2 too much, Cripps 1 or 2 not enough!
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 07-31-2023
Cameron getting votes is unexpected. I would have had 5 or 6 Pies ahead of him.
He took some marks, kicked a goal and got more hitouts than Pitto, but we owned the stoppages. Take away the three inexplicable ruck infringement frees he was gifted and it becomes an ordinary performance.
As has been stated previously, none of the rucks had much impact.