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Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - flyboy77 - 02-24-2021
Here's one for LP to drum up some ad hominem attack over....
https://clintel.org/new-presentation-by-john-christy-models-for-ar6-still-fail-to-reproduce-trends-in-tropical-troposphere/?mc_cid=1f85683f49&mc_eid=5965e22311
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 08:56 PM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Here's one for LP to drum up some ad hominem attack over....People discussing what you post isn't a personal attack, never is and never was, you thinking that is possibly paranoia though.
https://clintel.org/new-presentation-by-john-christy-models-for-ar6-still-fail-to-reproduce-trends-in-tropical-troposphere/?mc_cid=1f85683f49&mc_eid=5965e22311
As for the article, just debating how fast climate change is happening isn't denying that it's happening, although I suspect climate change deniers will latch onto it. The debate about whether climate change is happening is over, long ago, the debate is now turned to how fast it's happening. Shocking! :o
As the graphs in the article show, one goes up, ......................... and the other one goes up too! Even at 0.5°C it's dramatic because that 0.5°C is a number taken from a global average where the two extremes, the minimum and maximum temperatures, move further apart!
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Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - PaulP - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 07:45 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:The old bloke lost his marbles years ago.
How are the climate clowns going to spin this one....?
Sigh. Another graduate of the Max Delbrück School Of Wit : "I don't understand this. It must be wrong."
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - LP - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 10:00 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Sigh. Another graduate of the Max Delbrück School Of Wit : "I don't understand this. It must be wrong."
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[member=64]PaulP[/member], I'm not really bothered by those who do not understand.
What really grinds for me are those who demonstrate the ability to comprehend yet choose to deliberately oppose the science and data for political, economic or social purposes, all the while recruiting an oblivious army of drones built from those who cannot comprehend themselves. Those "active deniers" are truly insidious, merchants of misery and destruction for their own perverted benefits! People like Alan "Hannibal" Jones or Andrew "Voldermort" Bolt.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - DJC - 02-27-2021
Yeah, nah!
The climate is stable and it's all good :
https://theconversation.com/the-texas-deep-freeze-left-the-state-in-crisis-here-are-3-lessons-for-australia-155760
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - PaulP - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 07:29 AM)DJC link Wrote:Yeah, nah!
The climate is stable and it's all good :
https://theconversation.com/the-texas-deep-freeze-left-the-state-in-crisis-here-are-3-lessons-for-australia-155760
America has more than enough money and knowledge to deal with something like this. This is what you get when you privatise utilities :
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/what-a-warming-australia-can-learn-from-a-frozen-texas-20210225-p575yn.html.
On day two the Fox News star host Tucker Carlson told his viewers that “a reckless reliance on windmills is the cause of this disaster,” and claimed that “the windmills froze, so the power grid failed”.
On the third day of blackouts former Texas governor Rick Perry said Texans would happily endure more “to keep the federal government out of their business” while current governor Greg Abbott appeared on another Fox News program to blame renewable energy.........................................................
He blamed the Green New Deal, a set of environmental policies championed by left-wing Democrats and partially embraced - though mostly not yet implemented - by the Biden administration.
Tim Boyd, mayor of Colorado City - which is in fact a small Texas town - told his citizens that “only the strong will survive and the weak will [perish]” in a blog post.
“No one owes you [or] your family anything; nor is it the local government’s responsibility to support you during trying times like this!” he said. “Sink or swim it’s your choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout.”
The country is a complete cesspit of lies and corrupt ideology.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Baggers - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 07:58 AM)PaulP link Wrote:America has more than enough money and knowledge to deal with something like this. This is what you get when you privatise utilities :
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/what-a-warming-australia-can-learn-from-a-frozen-texas-20210225-p575yn.html.
On day two the Fox News star host Tucker Carlson told his viewers that “a reckless reliance on windmills is the cause of this disaster,” and claimed that “the windmills froze, so the power grid failed”.
On the third day of blackouts former Texas governor Rick Perry said Texans would happily endure more “to keep the federal government out of their business” while current governor Greg Abbott appeared on another Fox News program to blame renewable energy.........................................................
He blamed the Green New Deal, a set of environmental policies championed by left-wing Democrats and partially embraced - though mostly not yet implemented - by the Biden administration.
Tim Boyd, mayor of Colorado City - which is in fact a small Texas town - told his citizens that “only the strong will survive and the weak will [perish]” in a blog post.
“No one owes you [or] your family anything; nor is it the local government’s responsibility to support you during trying times like this!” he said. “Sink or swim it’s your choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout.”
The country is a complete cesspit of lies and corrupt ideology.
Reprehensible and irresponsible comments. Your final sentence, Pauly... spot on. Just appalling comments in the face of suffering citizens.
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - PaulP - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 09:23 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Reprehensible and irresponsible comments. Your final sentence, Pauly... spot on. Just appalling comments in the face of suffering citizens.
That country is beyond the point of no return. Ercot received warnings that their system would not cope with high demand in winter, they did f@ck all to rectify the situation because it would eat into profits.
Chris Hedges lives in Princeton NJ, one of the wealthier places in the US, and has this to say :
I live in Princeton, N.J., which is an enclave of the one per cent, and when it rains, the power goes out, and not only that, but the phone lines go down. It’s all falling apart.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/09/10/analysis/end-times-american-democracy-interview-chris-hedges
And let's not forget Enron and the 2000-01 California Electricity Crisis :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_California_electricity_crisis
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - Gointocarlton - 02-27-2021
(02-27-2021, 09:37 AM)PaulP link Wrote:That country is beyond the point of no return. Ercot received warnings that their system would not cope with high demand in winter, they did f@ck all to rectify the situation because it would eat into profits.And that's why I maintain the needless pandering and ass licking by us of that moron of a nation needs to stop. Just a bunch of imbeciles.
Chris Hedges lives in Princeton NJ, one of the wealthier places in the US, and has this to say :
I live in Princeton, N.J., which is an enclave of the one per cent, and when it rains, the power goes out, and not only that, but the phone lines go down. It’s all falling apart.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/09/10/analysis/end-times-american-democracy-interview-chris-hedges
And let's not forget Enron and the 2000-01 California Electricity Crisis :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_California_electricity_crisis
Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread - PaulP - 02-28-2021
https://theconversation.com/texas-was-a-warning-australia-needs-to-rethink-the-design-of-its-electricity-market-155856