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Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - spf - 09-09-2020
(09-09-2020, 02:51 AM)crashlander link Wrote:He had a shocker, no two ways about it.
I wouldn't be giving him away for nothing: we spent to much money getting him. But he needs time to get his game right, to start holding his marks, especially.
See if West Coast or Fremantle are interested - one of them may be. Swap of picks involved with a trade for Adam Cerra who may want to come home.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - PaulP - 09-09-2020
This is obviously a post game thread, but just to add my thoughts on McGovern - his best is definitely good enough. The club needs to figure out whether and when they can get him playing best or near best on a consistent basis. I'm not fussed if he plays forward, back etc. Just get him playing good footy. If not, then he should be traded. His form is lousy, and I hope it's just a short term situation.
He could certainly get some good tips abut defensive play from his brother.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - Thryleon - 09-09-2020
He'll get a contract extension.
Unless he wants out and we trade him.
I think we paid him a lot to come over, and now we can sign him ALA Daisy for a lot less, and keep our war chest.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - laj - 09-09-2020
This is where we would be if we won games against Melbourne, Collingwood and GWS as we should've.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder?year=2020&pt=PD&st=AQ&sb=p
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - crashlander - 09-09-2020
My comments in colour.
(09-09-2020, 02:15 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Just fark him off, he's embarrasing.
Carlton Players Out of Contract in 2020 Carlton Player Contracts
Name Years Service Status
Ben Silvagni 2 Non-Free Agent Will remain.
Callum Moore 1 Non-Free Agent I wouldn't retain him. Doesn't fit into our structure, for all his enthusiasm.
Cameron Polson 4 Non-Free Agent Polson might get another contract, as a defender. No certainty.
Darcy Lang 3 Non-Free Agent He's so gone it isn't funny. I honestly don't understand why we were interested in him.
Eddie Betts 1 Non-Free Agent Apparently Eddie is in talks. Depends on what happens to list sizes and salary caps. Will be at the club in some capacity.
Edward Curnow 10 Unrestricted Free Agent He won't be going anywhere.
Finbar O'Dwyer 2 Non-Free Agent I don't think he has done enough to be retained.
Fraser Phillips 1 Non-Free Agent had one year. Will probably get another.
Harrison Macreadie 4 Non-Free Agent Depends on list size and salary cap.
Hugh Goddard 2 Non-Free Agent Great at VFL level, just not fast enough at AFL level. Offer him a spot in our VFL side next year?
Jack Newnes 1 Non-Free Agent Done enough. Will be retained.
Josh Honey 1 Non-Free Agent Looks promising.
Kade Simpson 18 Unrestricted Free Agent Not sure what will happen to Simmo. He might retire. he hasn't been as good this year, although he hasn't been bad.
Lachlan Plowman 5 Non-Free Agent Will be retained.
Levi Casboult 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Will be retained.
Marc Murphy 15 Unrestricted Free Agent Signed on for one more year. Will probably see him out.
Matt Cottrell 2 Non-Free Agent Done enough. Will be retained.
Matt Owies 2 Non-Free Agent Probably will be retained. Is still improving.
Matthew Kennedy 3 Non-Free Agent Done enough. Will be retained. Much improved this year.
Matthew Kreuzer 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Not sure what is going to happen with the Tractor. His injuries may make him retire.
Michael Gibbons 2 Non-Free Agent Done enough. Will be retained.
Mitch McGovern 2 Non-Free Agent Having spent so much on Mitch I think we'll give him another year. But he is definitely on shaky ground and needs to start showing a lot more.
Nic Newman 2 Non-Free Agent Can't see him going anywhere.
Tom Williamson 4 Non-Free Agent Done enough to get another contract.
Will Setterfield 2 Non-Free Agent Done enough to get another contract.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - flyboy77 - 09-09-2020
(09-09-2020, 02:17 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Gov may possibly get another contract but on much reduced pay with heavy emphasis on performance targets. I don't think he is what we need atm but that is what is more l likely to happen than him being shown the door.
I think he's very capable of being a very good/elite 3rd tall.
But for whatever reason his time at CFC has been close to embarrassing.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - LP - 09-09-2020
(09-09-2020, 03:09 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:I think he's very capable of being a very good/elite 3rd tall.A F50 overcrowded with talls and pretty poor ball use would seem to be the major contributing problems.
But for whatever reason his time at CFC has been close to embarrassing.
Watch last night, Simmo nearly kicks over the head of a player just 15m or 20m away, it's plain as day on the broadcast as the whole event happens within shot! It's not good enough from beginners let alone veterans.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - flyboy77 - 09-09-2020
(09-09-2020, 03:12 AM)LP link Wrote:A F50 overcrowded with talls and pretty poor ball use would seem to be the major contributing problems.
Watch last night, Simmo nearly kicks over the head of a player just 15m or 20m away, it's plain as day on the broadcast as the whole event happens within shot! It's not good enough from beginners let alone veterans.
Yes, indeed. No argument on that score at all....
But I think the guy had 1 touch up to 3-4 time.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - LP - 09-09-2020
(09-09-2020, 03:19 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Yes, indeed. No argument on that score at all....Someone watching mentioned here on the forum somewhere that McGovern seemed to be playing the decoy role for McKay and Casboult, not sure if it's true I think it's too hard to tell from a TV broadcast.
But I think the guy had 1 touch up to 3-4 time.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone on the forum who was there live and can comment.
Re: Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon - Milhanna13 - 09-09-2020
Obviously the kicking into Fw50 was horrible all match (and has been for a while, probably except for the Bulldogs game)
It was much worse in the first Q and a bit.
I reckon one thing that stood out in that first Q and a bit was the 15m kick - mark - go back - 15m kick - mark - go back style we were playing. We look our best when we take the game on, play on, look for the little kick into the corridor, but then play on from it. Why were we slowing down so much in the first stanza?? Makes the kick into fw50 that much harder, as gives the Swans a chance to set up.
We were a bit more free-flowing in the remainder of the match - and suddenly the forward entries became (slightly!!) easier.
First q and a bit was ridiculous, i think at one stage they had 10 fwd50 entires for 7 goals and we had 20 entries for zilch!!
The only pleasing thing out of the early going, is that we didnt drop our workrate - kept up the tackling and kept winning the contested ball