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Re: Deer in the Headlights - Baggers - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 05:34 AM)chalkybill link Wrote:Unfortunately Baggers. there have been many more than a couple started by arsonists.
I should have been clearer... posting on the run, silly me. Apologies to the Fluffy One and Chalky old son. The 'couple' of fires referred to in my post related to a recent spate of a dozen or so but I didn't clarify that - my bad! (Two of those were confirmed, deliberate... but I failed to give the necessary details/specifics ...doh!).
Yes, over, for example an entire fire season you'll find anything up to 50% caused by deliberate or suspicious circumstances. As mentioned previously, and in the greater scheme of things, there will always be those sick individuals who will deliberately or carelessly cause a bush fire so we have to be even better at locating and combatting fires, especially as now bush fires have the potential to cause so much more devastation.
As TONYO said, "The old saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - if we have effective and well-provisioned emergency workforces including volunteers, providing proactive as well as reactive services, we are less likely to end up wondering how so many of these events go so wrong."
Re: Deer in the Headlights - LP - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:00 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:I guess it is a human trait to believe what you want to believe Baggers. True for people from all walks of life and shades of political opinion. Unfortunately few of us are blessed with the gift of absolute impartiality.Unfortunately in the area where I live all the News Ltd promoted fire bug paranoia has results in vigilantly types patrolling the streets harassing groups of kids and teenagers who are obviously "the fire lighters."
The net result is that everyone is now driving their kids around the area trivial distances instead of them just walking and playing outdoors!
Get that in your carbon sink irony!
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Mav - 01-08-2020
(01-07-2020, 09:29 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:One factor we don't hear much about is how many of these fires are the result of firebug actions. I have read that many have been deliberately lit? This would be a problem of our society and its collective mental health?Fires misinformation being spread through social media , ABC News.
Re: Deer in the Headlights - cookie2 - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:22 AM)LP link Wrote:Unfortunately in the area where I live all the News Ltd promoted fire bug paranoia has results in vigilantly types patrolling the streets harassing groups of kids and teenagers who are obviously "the fire lighters."
The net result is that everyone is now driving their kids around the area trivial distances instead of them just walking and playing outdoors!
Get that in your carbon sink irony!
Another case of jumping to conclusions by the sound of it. So the fact that firebugs are active should be supressed?
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Baggers - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:00 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I guess it is a human trait to believe what you want to believe Baggers. True for people from all walks of life and shades of political opinion. Unfortunately few of us are blessed with the gift of absolute impartiality.
Yes, I guess I'm biased against News Ltd/Fox News! ?
The people we trust to be the most impartial are scientists, because they test and retest their results. I wonder if they've had anything to say about the horrors of our recent fires ? ?
Re: Deer in the Headlights - cookie2 - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:28 AM)Mav link Wrote:Fires misinformation being spread through social media , ABC News.Thanks but the only social media I read is this site.
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Baggers - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:28 AM)Mav link Wrote:Fires misinformation being spread through social media , ABC News.
Wow. Important information (won't get objective, fact based stuff like this on Fox / News Ltd ? )
Re: Deer in the Headlights - cookie2 - 01-08-2020
Do these scientists have access to the crime reports? If so I would love to listen to them on the subject of firebugs and how their activities may impact the overall picture wrt the bush fires.
Re: Deer in the Headlights - PaulP - 01-08-2020
(01-08-2020, 06:28 AM)Mav link Wrote:Fires misinformation being spread through social media , ABC News.
You've been very quiet lately Mav. Nice to see a post from you after such a long time.
Re: Deer in the Headlights - Baggers - 01-08-2020
For those still blaming 'pinko, lefty, greenie' whatevers for the fires, check out these and other interesting facts:
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/92262/NSW-RFS-Annual-Report-2017-18-web.pdf#page=118
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/129892/NSW-RFS-Annual-Report-2018-19-web.pdf#page=117