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Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 07:48 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:I think Bolts is lucky the Judge doesn't make rash decisions!
Yes, more the slow burn type I think. If it was Big Jack, Bolton would not have lasted 3 games, let alone 3 seasons.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 06:54 AM)Lods link Wrote:I've been a Teague fan but.....We couldnt buy a goal in the second. Then lo and behold, fwd started running towards the ball carrier and we marked and goaled. Leading, what a novel concept.
Teague's our forward coach
Our forward line is a shambles.
You would have to be an insider to know what's actually going on there ….but Teague has enough on his plate to get that functional before we hand over a senior gig to him.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - BluePhantom - 04-06-2019
Question and answer time at my beloved club.
Truth, put everything on the table warts and all.
What's pissing people off, what does the TEAM need to pull off a win?
Come on, round table meeting, everyone equal..call it now!
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Bassman - 04-06-2019
I didn’t read all your pre-game chats but honestly if you’re an astute follower of the AFL, you could not possibly have tipped us to win after seeing the teams on paper. The game played out pretty much how I thought it would. The Swans team has class, strength and composure on every line, and half our team looked like a pack of schoolboys (and played like them) in comparison. Gibbons isn’t a small forward, Polson isn’t an AFL player and O’Brien plays like he’s in the U17s. Name one Swan player like that? We lost at match committee, we needed a physically stronger team. Kennedy and Silvagni should have been in. We don’t need ‘small forwards’, we need smart and composed forwards. And we need players to learn how to deliver to our forwards’ advantage at the very minimum. We nearly always kick inside 50 to advantage the opposition. Losing Cuningham is shaping as a big loss because he’s smart around goals. Losing Curnow was massive and without those two our forward line was full of holes. Then losing McGovern didn’t help.
But overall it’s not just a matter of that we need to win a game, it’s probably going to be a lot harder than most expected because our senior players aren’t really natural leaders and most make fundamental mistakes in crucial moments all the time. I think we’re not gonna be anywhere near finals until we have players that push Murphy, Thomas, E. Curnow and Simpson out of the team.
As far as BB is concerned, he has got faults, probably the biggest is putting faith in players who continually don’t meet (supporters) expectations, but ‘try hard ‘.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - laj - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 06:54 AM)Lods link Wrote:I've been a Teague fan but.....
Teague's our forward coach
Our forward line is a shambles.
You would have to be an insider to know what's actually going on there ….but Teague has enough on his plate to get that functional before we hand over a senior gig to him.
That or a victim of a crappy game that gets the ball into the F50 in the most inefficient way. There's no way you can set up with that crap coming into the F50.
Also guessing whatever Ratten was doing under Pagan wasn't looking so good either. Then he got the job and did well.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Professer E - 04-06-2019
Watching the tape.....Heeney gets a golden run. Pushes blokes out... No free.... Touch him it's a free. He's a F+*,ing Bilby that bloke.
The two goals that Buddy kicked were rotten calls as well. He gets frees based on reputation...he's buddy and his opponent is a no name (Jones) who doesn't count.
Shouldn't have expected any different, Swans got stiffed last week, can't have that two weeks in a row.
Problem I have is McKay gets blocked or held and they just ignore it.
We wont play finals but the swans won't either.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - Macca37 - 04-06-2019
I went to the game today and saw the Swans do what they do year in and year out - use precision kicking and accurate handball under pressure, whether on the back line or forward line, to win the game.
On the other hand I saw Carlton, despite having so many first round picks, butcher the ball by hand and foot as they have on so many occasions this century. Despite the number of coaches and skill coaches the priority for Carlton players with the ball seems to be:
a) Where possible, whether in defence or attack, kick to an opposition player who is by himself
b) Kick the ball short in front of the oncoming Carlton player so that the opposition player can sweep up the ball or create a stoppage
c) Use the chaos theory - just slam the ball on to your boot so the opposition won't know where it is going, and neither will the Carlton players
d) always handball to a teammate who is under maximum pressure.
Seriously, I'm over it. As I said once before, I've followed Carlton for 74 years and always thought the dark years of the club 1948 to 1967 would never be repeated, but I see no relief in sight in this century.
As others have said: is the club in a collective mental state where winning games is unachievable?
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - 31Tommys_barber - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 05:54 AM)laj link Wrote:1964 was the last.I remember 64 we had our worst season ever to that date, in our centenary year. We disgracefully finished 10th ????
By our standards of today a dream year!
BUT it brought in a ruthless administration when Harris took over, got Barrassi and had our greatest period.
Maybe it is time for a revolution and time for ruthlessness from the top and fear of not performing
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 04-06-2019
(04-06-2019, 09:22 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:.................................
As others have said: is the club in a collective mental state where winning games is unachievable?
Turning a losing culture into a winning culture is a monumental task, that goes well beyond one individual or department. Which is one reason among many why I see no value in sacking the coach. As you state, all sorts of personnel come and go (players, coaches, football dept heads, presidents etc.) but still the culture persists. It's almost as though it's now part of the bricks and mortar. It's a devilishly hard habit to break.
Re: Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 04-06-2019
A lot of negativity on here today. Understandable that people are hurting, but calling for the coaches head?
People realise that we had more scoring shots today? Sure, it was just 1, but it was MORE.
You know what that means? If we had've kicked it through the big sticks a bit more, we would've won the game. As simple as that.
McKay kicked 1.3, at least a couple he should've kicked, 1 from 15m out i believe.
Casboult did was casboult does and hit the post at a key moment in the game.
Setters kicked 0.2 and of course there were others.
We played poorly, but ultimately it was mere kicking at goal that cost us the game. Imagine when we play well?
No need to (re)start a rebuild, just kick straighter.