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Re: Hannah Mouncey - LP - 02-25-2022
(02-24-2022, 10:08 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:There would be no women in sport.The minority lobbyists will set an agenda to have law past that require quotas.
Then the rules of the sport will be changed to ensure women are not put as excessive risk.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - capcom - 02-25-2022
ALL women should stand out of sport if they have to compete against an athlete born a man. Let alone tolerating having one on their team.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - Thryleon - 02-25-2022
(02-24-2022, 10:08 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:There would be no women in sport.
Don't tell me you want equality then tell me its not fair that women aren't represented when it's open to both genders.
Equity and equality aren't the same thing.
Hannah can play with the boys if she wants to.
If its a woman's game and you were born with male anatomy then you dont qualify to play afl w.
I'll let Darcy work out why gender fluid causes issues here too.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - LP - 03-25-2023
(02-24-2022, 10:08 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:There would be no women in sport.Notice [member=26]madbluboy[/member] that world swimming and athletics seem to agree with us, and have kyboshed transgenders athletes competing in women's divisions.
For me this was both obvious and inevitable.
I don't get why some people want to bury their head in the sand regarding just how far some would go to secure a medal that in some countries is attached to a life long income. They must have missed the 70s and 80s when the East Germans were flying!
The new rules do not cause an inequality, they stop an inequality from happening!
This issue is going to hit the fan in AFLW and EPLW as well, especially if wages keep rising.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - DJC - 03-25-2023
I’m quite comfortable with transgender athletes not being permitted to take part in women’s sport. Sexual dimorphism is significant for Homo sapiens and the physical attributes of transgender females may provide too great an advantage over athletes who were born female.
A friend’s child recently transitioned. She was quite a good basketballer as a young man but wanting to achieve fame and fortune as a female basketballer played absolutely no part in her desire to be the person she knew she was.
The proposition that an athlete would transition in order to achieve success is about as realistic as someone maiming themselves in order to be a Paralympian.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - LP - 03-25-2023
We live in a society were people gut others like fish for personal gain, some self-harm for a variety of reasons, others profit from the misery of others, yet we are to believe it's untenable that some may gender alter themselves for profit or some other form of reward.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - DJC - 03-25-2023
(03-25-2023, 11:55 AM)LP link Wrote:We live in a society were people gut others like fish for personal gain, some self-harm for a variety of reasons, others profit from the misery of others, yet we are to believe it's untenable that some may gender alter themselves for profit or some other form of reward.
Of course it’s possible, but but it’s highly unlikely. A bit like growing a second head or third leg ?
Re: Hannah Mouncey - Lods - 03-25-2023
I think everyone deserves the opportunity to compete in a sport they love.
The thing about sports like track and field and swimming (just to name two) is....
They have categories divided by sex.
They have age categories (usually at 2 year intervals) up until open.
They have masters age groups every five years after age thirty.
They have multiple catgories for athletes with a disability.
Doesn't seem that hard to me to add two more categories....trans-male to female and female to male.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - Gointocarlton - 03-25-2023
(03-25-2023, 01:56 PM)Lods link Wrote:I think everyone deserves the opportunity to compete in a sport they love.I agree, I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere the trans people don't want that as they find it discriminatory (or something along those lines).
The thing about sports like track and field and swimming (just to name two) is....
They have categories divided by sex.
They have age categories (usually at 2 year intervals) up until open.
They have masters age groups every five years after age thirty.
They have multiple catgories for athletes with a disability.
Doesn't seem that hard to me to add two more categories....trans-male to female and female to male.
Re: Hannah Mouncey - LP - 03-25-2023
(03-25-2023, 01:48 PM)DJC date Wrote:Of course it’s possible, but but it’s highly unlikely. A bit like growing a second head or third leg ?Yes so unlikely they must struggle to find surgeons, specialists, hospitals, lobby groups, public funding, bureaucratic support, after all the numbers are so low there is no money in it!
Sooner or later a top golfer or tennis player will transition, they won't need to be very heavily inclined to be triggered, the lure of the cash and fame will be too much, and it will all blow up! Moths to the spotlights!