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Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - Barbs - 07-24-2017
(07-24-2017, 03:21 AM)crashlander link Wrote:A couple of comments have mentioned about the umpiring. How bad was it?Just appalling in the second half.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - pinot - 07-24-2017
(07-24-2017, 03:21 AM)crashlander link Wrote:A couple of comments have mentioned about the umpiring. How bad was it?
It was bad - but we played worse.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - crashlander - 07-24-2017
That doesn't help. However, when we are strong, we can cope with poor umpiring. Just at the moment, we struggle with it.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - Vivian - 07-24-2017
Umpiring was poor. But it has struggled all year. Its not, in my view, the umpires who for the most part are excellent. It is a very hard game to umpire.
The umpires are facing some challenges namely:
-Too many on the field. The move toward four field umpires will make matters worse as they get hesitant and look to defer decisions.
- frequent rule changes leading to confusion for all. The nominated ruckman example is the most recent.
-a clear directive that infringements not be penalised if the ball spills clear and play on is possible. We see frequent holding the ball, push in the back go unpunished and play on called.
-the use of microphones for TV. It removes some discretion from umpires and I don't think it is helpful. The public does not need to hear this and it puts pressure on.
-the practice of coaching and involvement in melees. Rather than telling players not to do this and that, just report them or award a free kick.
-the outrageous inconsistency where some venues do not have cameras for goal umpire decisions.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - dodge - 07-24-2017
Good post Vivian. I agree with all of that. It is also hard to 'take the patch off' when you're watching your own team. There is much more objectivity when watching a neutral game.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - blue4life - 07-24-2017
Anything off the ball should be penalised, if a player sits an opponent on his backside metres away from play or during a break an immediate free kick should be paid on the spot, this he-man nonsense is a blight on the game.
And while I'm at it, what's with allowing players to shepherd the man standing the mark?
If it's not against the rules it should be.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - Micky0 - 07-24-2017
A very clear indication the umpiring was substandard- Zorko got a one week ban for hitting Plowman - absolutely in front and one metre from an umpire that was watching and didn't even award a free kick ffs!!
https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/zorko-and-greene-cop-suspensions?station=melbourne
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-24-2017
Derm thinks highly of Charlie.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/07/24/young-blue-two-years-away-from-being-the-best-brereton/
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-24-2017
(07-24-2017, 08:10 AM)laj link Wrote:Derm thinks highly of Charlie.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/07/24/young-blue-two-years-away-from-being-the-best-brereton/
And rightly so. He is so far ahead of our other young players. He is one of those rare players who will be able to take a game by the scruff and turn it in our favour. Let's hope he has a terrific career in Navy.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game Pandemonium: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-24-2017
(07-24-2017, 07:59 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Anything off the ball should be penalised, if a player sits an opponent on his backside metres away from play or during a break an immediate free kick should be paid on the spot, this he-man nonsense is a blight on the game.
And while I'm at it, what's with allowing players to shepherd the man standing the mark?
If it's not against the rules it should be.
Agree with all that.