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The backline 2024 - DJC - 02-19-2024
Sammy Hamill has done a review of some of our defenders and, you wouldn't believe it, they're flying through the pre-season
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1487430/2024-pre-season-report-card-defenders
Unfortunately, Sammy hasn't provided reports on Kemp, Williams, Young, tall Durdin, Marchbank and Cincotta. I'm also keen to see whether Jaxson Binns is earmarked for a role in defence this season.
There's big shoes to fill with Weitering out in terms of his unbeatability in one on one contests, his ability to choose the right option when distributing the ball or rebounding from defence, and his generalship of the team in the back half. I don't think any one player can do all of that and our defence will have to step up across the board.
If I was picking the team for "opening round", I would go with:
B: Newman Young Williams
HB: Saad Kemp McGovern
I/C: Cincotta
I think the MC will go with:
B: Newman Marchbank Williams
HB: Saad McGovern Cincotta
I/C: Boyd
Re: The backline 2024 - Blue Moon - 02-19-2024
Without Weitering I think it will be Williams, Marchbank, Kemp, Saad, McGovern, Newman and Boyd. Cincotta will be unlucky while Young, Durdin and Cowan are back up. While Wilson, Akui and Monaghan will still be developing. Looking at the names we are probably one short on the list so there is an opportunity for someone to step up.
Re: The backline 2024 - Gointocarlton - 02-19-2024
For me its:
Saad Young Newman
Williams McGovern Marchbank
Kemp (INT)
Need a big fella to replace Weiters, has to be Young (assume his gremlins from last year are gone), I think we are exposed for size in the backline without him. Marchbank, McGovern, Kemp all not big enough to cover for Weiters and they play different roles anyway.
Boyd and Cincotta to miss and fight for a spot, Williams is back and provides the elite kicking and running. One thing we would miss from Cincotta is his toughness, runs straight at the ball/man with no fear, likes the argy bargy and has a lot of kent in him. He ticks all the Voss boxes.
Re: The backline 2024 - DJC - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 11:34 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:Without Weitering I think it will be Williams, Marchbank, Kemp, Saad, McGovern, Newman and Boyd. Cincotta will be unlucky while Young, Durdin and Cowan are back up. While Wilson, Akui and Monaghan will still be developing. Looking at the names we are probably one short on the list so there is an opportunity for someone to step up.
Monahan is a forward but Matthew Carroll is another developing defender. Then there's Jaxson Binns, who I believe may play as a defender this season.
Re: The backline 2024 - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-19-2024
I think Boyd will play vs Brisbane after his good game on Bailey.
Young has to play FB, Daniher is too tall for our other defenders.
Re: The backline 2024 - kruddler - 02-20-2024
(02-19-2024, 10:46 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think Boyd will play vs Brisbane after his good game on Bailey.
Young has to play FB, Daniher is too tall for our other defenders.
There is a lot of hope from supporters about young returning to the line-up, especially since weiters is down. With all the positive vibes from the club, I dint think I've read anything positive about young...we might need to temper out expectations of him.
Re: The backline 2024 - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 04:23 AM)kruddler link Wrote:There is a lot of hope from supporters about young returning to the line-up, especially since weiters is down. With all the positive vibes from the club, I dint think I've read anything positive about young...we might need to temper out expectations of him.Going to require a big effort from players up the ground to limit the Lions forwards entries and probably our rucks might have to drop back a bit more than usual to help our defenders out. Got no doubt the Lions will try and squeeze an extra tall forward in to exploit Weiterings absence. Usually players lift with responsibility and Young is a capable player imo who I think can do the job, Id be more worried about the Richmond game if Lynch plays as he plays a more physical game than Daniher and I expect the Tigers to be a different proposition this season with a new coach and setup.
Re: The backline 2024 - DJC - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 04:23 AM)kruddler link Wrote:There is a lot of hope from supporters about young returning to the line-up, especially since weiters is down. With all the positive vibes from the club, I dint think I've read anything positive about young...we might need to temper out expectations of him.
Young is very prominent in the photographs and footage of training and match sims. If he's outmarking our other talls and timing his spoils, as seems the case, then he should be back to his best.
As mentioned above Sammy Hamill hasn't provided a report on Young, or Kemp, Williams, Nigel Durdin, Marchbank and Cincotta.
I guess we'll find out on Thursday morning.
Re: The backline 2024 - LP - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 05:29 AM)DJC date Wrote:Young is very prominent in the photographs and footage of training and match sims. If he's outmarking our other talls and timing his spoils, as seems the case, then he should be back to his best.Firstly, let's hope so.
But without wanting sound cynical, what did Pagan call pre-season?
In pre-season I can take things seriously that are indisputably objective, body composition changes, time trials, etc., etc..
Winning one on one contests against team mates isn't objective, it's dancing with your sister!
In Rnd 1, when players can hear the footsteps are coming, and the crowd gasps in dread, then I'll take note of competitive form.
Re: The backline 2024 - DJC - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 05:46 AM)LP link Wrote:Firstly, let's hope so.
But without wanting sound cynical, what did Pagan call pre-season?
In pre-season I can take things seriously that are indisputably objective, body composition changes, time trials, etc., etc..
Winning one on one contests against team mates isn't objective, it's dancing with your sister!
In Rnd 1, when players can hear the footsteps are coming, and the crowd gasps in dread, then I'll take note of competitive form.
Yes, there's an element of truth to that but, when impartial observers describe our training and match sims as "brutal", it may not be all that sisterly.
As I wrote above, we'll find out on Thursday morning against a pretty good forward line ... even if there are some blokes missing.