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Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - crashlander - 07-30-2016
Sunday 7th August at the MCG at 1310 in the afternoon. This game should be the return of Marc Murphy. However, that will depend on his ankle, which has not been standard fare.
We probably NEED Murphy. St Kilda killed us at Etihad in the midfield where their ruck dominance (something not expected) gave their pacy mids the opportunity to really hurt us. Getting the ball out of the centre as easily as they did lead to our defence being under pressure and not being able to set up. As a result Membury kicked enough goals to bury us.
Now our ruck stocks will probably be stronger than at Etihad and the 'Aints will not be advantaged by their favourite surface, but we have to show that we have learnt from that debacle.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - crashlander - 07-30-2016
Another Hawthorn win and I'm frustrated. We do not have much idea how to kick goals.
Can we find something against the 'Aints? Well, if this game is an 'honourable loss' I'm going to be honourably upset.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - PaulP - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 07:07 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Another Hawthorn win and I'm frustrated. We do not have much idea how to kick goals.
Can we find something against the 'Aints? Well, if this game is an 'honourable loss' I'm going to be honourably upset.
Hopefully we won't let them run free and unimpeded like we did last time.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - laj - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 07:07 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Another Hawthorn win and I'm frustrated. We do not have much idea how to kick goals.
Can we find something against the 'Aints? Well, if this game is an 'honourable loss' I'm going to be honourably upset.
I say it every week, pick a 2nd key forward as it spreads the defence and opens up the 50 for our runners. No coincidence we started winning right at that point of picking a 2nd one. A similar structure as when we were winning and kicking goals, not when we were losing and struggling to hit the scoreboard would be more than useful. As much as I like Phillips, he'll be a player, we functioned alot better when he was injured as our structure was much better.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - cookie2 - 07-30-2016
We need more creativity and precision going into our F50 and we need to take our chances when we do create them. Levi has lost me I'm afraid.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - Robblues - 07-30-2016
We all look for the answers to our goal famine , but it's a skill set, which our current crop of players don't have. It's instinctive skill to turn a half chance into a score . It's not a teachable thing , it's in bred , so if our current players don't have it , need different players. No point running out the same players Into the paddock, you will get the same result. No scores on a regular basis.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - Professer E - 07-30-2016
Our loss to this mob was close to our worst effort this season. Kerridge may be a better match for Stevens than Ed and Kreuzer/Phillips need to negate Hickey.
McEvoy always seems to hurt us on the scoreboard which irks me no end, can't let a similar trend develop vs the likes of Hickey because we are going to play this mob a lot in the future.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - cookie2 - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 10:17 PM)Robblues link Wrote:We all look for the answers to our goal famine , but it's a skill set, which our current crop of players don't have. It's instinctive skill to turn a half chance into a score . It's not a teachable thing , it's in bred , so if our current players don't have it , need different players. No point running out the same players Into the paddock, you will get the same result. No scores on a regular basis.
we've probably reached close to the full potential of our current list. We need to bring in some higher skilled talent next year, there's not a lot in the NBs from all accounts.
Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - bratblue - 07-31-2016
(07-30-2016, 11:19 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:we've probably reached close to the full potential of our current list.
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Re: Rd 20: Pre Game Anticipation: Carlton vs St Kilda - DJC - 07-31-2016
(07-30-2016, 11:19 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:we've probably reached close to the full potential of our current list. We need to bring in some higher skilled talent next year, there's not a lot in the NBs from all accounts.
I reckon there's heaps of potential in our list but possibly not in the one area that's crying out for improvement; midfielders and defenders who can deliver the ball to the forwards. Of course, we have Murphy to come back and David Cuningham could be OK if he can get fit and do a full pre-season. Billy Gowers is another who has shown a bit.
Four or five midfielders/small forwards who are upgrades on Lamb, Sumner, Graham, Whiley, Buckley, etc and we'd match it with most sides.